[watsonsh]

I am not sure I have RSD but have some symptoms that maybe be similar in nature. I was looking for some of Vicc's posts on grpae seed extract but can't seem to find them.

Looking specifically for what dosage he was recommending.

Also any other supplements that seem to help?

THanks
Shelley

[mrsD]

Here it is:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread27784.html

300mg/day

Also Shelley, there is a study done on wrist fractures and healing and it found that giving 500mg of Vit C prevented RSD.
It suggests this may work for other forms of trauma too.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10636366

INTERPRETATION: This prospective, double-blind study shows that vitamin C was associated with a lower risk of RSD after wrist fractures. Our hypothesis is that this beneficial effect of prophylaxis would be useful in other forms of trauma.

PMID: 10636366 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I don't know if it is too late now for you for this...but I think it is worth a try. Also keep up with the magnesium oral.
So since Vit C is an antioxidant, you might add that into the mix too.

[watsonsh]

Thanks Mrsd!

ok I bought 50mg grape seed extract. I will start slowly and see if this helps.

Oh yeah I notice an improvement everytime I use Vit C. I will continue to use that.

And I do see a response to the cytokine inflammation from the magnesium.

Thanks again, we'll see if it helps. Can't hurt right?

[mrsD]

Sounds like a good plan to try. It might take time, since supplements are not like drugs, and work more slowly.

Regarding the cytokine storm: this got alot of coverage during this season's flu debate. There are some videos on YouTube that explain that the cytokine storm can be activated in certain people with vaccines. It is the adjuvant in the vaccine that triggers this response.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunologic_adjuvant

Some of the H1N1 vaccines brought to USA after ours was gone contained squalene, which is an oil adjuvant. Squalene is a fatty acid in olive oil. Some of our tissues contain it naturally. When injected however, it becomes allergenic and some scientists have found that it can trigger autoimmune reactions and inflammation in our own tissues, and causes the antibodies to it attack the host. Technically squalene is not allowed in US vaccines but it was in the Desert Storm anthrax vaccines, and is now thought to be the cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Some soldiers who were not in the end deployed to Iraq the first time, did receive the vaccine and also became ill, without stepping one foot in Iraq.

[keep smilin]

Originally Posted by mrsD

Sounds like a good plan to try. It might take time, since supplements are not like drugs, and work more slowly.

Regarding the cytokine storm: this got alot of coverage during this season's flu debate. There are some videos on YouTube that explain that the cytokine storm can be activated in certain people with vaccines. It is the adjuvant in the vaccine that triggers this response.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunologic_adjuvant

Some of the H1N1 vaccines brought to USA after ours was gone contained squalene, which is an oil adjuvant. Squalene is a fatty acid in olive oil. Some of our tissues contain it naturally. When injected however, it becomes allergenic and some scientists have found that it can trigger autoimmune reactions and inflammation in our own tissues, and causes the antibodies to it attack the host. Technically squalene is not allowed in US vaccines but it was in the Desert Storm anthrax vaccines, and is now thought to be the cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Some soldiers who were not in the end deployed to Iraq the first time, did receive the vaccine and also became ill, without stepping one foot in Iraq.

I am sorry as I can not shed any light on this subject but I do want to entend my sympathy and concerns to you should you have RSD..that I do know about and I hope you are not fallen victum to it...

Have a nice day....

KS

[watsonsh]

Thanks Mrsd!

And thanks Keep Smilin. I too hope its not RSD, but its similar to some degree and is an exaggerated nerve and immune response to a shot in my shoulder.

So I'll try some of Vicc's old advice and see it helps the symptoms.