Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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Old 03-09-2012, 02:09 PM #11
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Hi Kathy,

I'm happy to hear that this information has helped people. I know that many of the "professionals" in the medical industry are only interested in a paycheck, and I'm sorry to hear that you have been mistreated by apathetic doctors. I think the most therapeutic service any health professional can give is compassion.

I am glad to hear you have found success in some of the areas I have been exploring, such as meditation. I am very evidence oriented, and therefore I have a difficult time wrapping my head around Reiki, especially since it is apparently highly dependent on the practitioner, and there is no way of measuring how effective they are. That said, I don't dismiss anything, and know that there are certainly variables that I can't explain (such as the energetic meridians in acupuncture and Qi Gong).

I absolutely believe positive thought and attitude is essential. If you understand that your brain is in charge of your body, you also can understand that your brain is in charge of itself. If you can change your brain, you can change your body. In the case of CRPS, I believe that if you can change the limbic brain and autonomic nervous system, you can have a significant impact on the outcomes of CRPS.

It is funny how you talk about sounding new age, but the more I research, the more new age I become. Research supports what all of these "strange" new-age practitioners have been advocating over the decades. The brain/mind has ultimate control over the body, and to treat the body without treating the mind is a ludicrous approach. Hopefully that will soon change, as research seems to support that it should.

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Thanks Jonathan for sharing your knowledge and professional opinions with us. It is nice to know that professionals like you do exist since we have all seen so many people that just don't care about us and want to give us meds and send us home to suffer alone.

I've had full-body rsd and some other neuro diseases for over 6 plus years now and like said above I will not own them. I firmly believe I will be completely cured of rsd. I think a positive mindset is a huge tool in getting rid of it. I have used and done every kind of pain med, med, PT, lidocaine, ketamine, etc...the list goes on and on. What I have found that worked for me was gentle chiropractics, Reiki (with some Qi Gong), Accupuncture, meditation, and the last year natural vitamins and minerals in an iv that started out every two weeks and now is once a month. I do pray alot and try to laugh once each day no matter what. I think of rsd not as my disease but as my journey. Also, before rsd I had taken about two years of yoga which has helped me immensely esp the breathing and meditation parts of the program. I have put myself on my own PT program and I am doing better now that last year after I suffered a fall in ICU during ketamine treatment...I thought I was going to die for months the pain was incredible. And I was withdrawn on fentanyl cold turkey which was not a pleasant experience for sure. This is not a fast journey but it is a journey that must be taken both mentally and physically as well. Boy, now I sound so new age huh? lol. I have always believed in a more natural approach to any illness and prior to rsd never even took tylenol.

I am very happy to hear any other ideas you may have that would help us. You should be so proud of yourself for helping us...like I said not many professionals really understand or take the time to understand rsd and what we go through each day. It is a pleasure to know you.
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I am hoping to begin neurofeedback soon. I also am working with insurance. I noted some of the costs listed by other posters and wanted people in Southern California to know that one of the doctors listed on the article for the research, Caroline Grierson is right near UCLA. I talked with her about costs and she said that she charges $250 for a 2 hour initial assessment and then $125 for each session. This sounds much more reasonable then some of the others. Hope this helps someone!
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I spent a bundle of money on some of the mentioned treatment approaches. Although the ones I tried were totally ineffective for me I hope they work for others.

If you are limited due to finances you might want to consider tDCS prior to the others. It is non-invasive, very safe, cheap and has a good track record with chronic pain. I wish I had found it early on when I was first diagnosed. Given the strides I have made with it I suspect I would have had a chance at early remission. At the very least it certainly would have kept me from being maimed by the Boston Scientific Spinal Cord Stimulator that caused a debilitating spread.

For an outlay of about $300.00 you can treat yourself at home for as long as you need to.
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I spent a bundle of money on some of the mentioned treatment approaches. Although the ones I tried were totally ineffective for me I hope they work for others.

If you are limited due to finances you might want to consider tDCS prior to the others. It is non-invasive, very safe, cheap and has a good track record with chronic pain. I wish I had found it early on when I was first diagnosed. Given the strides I have made with it I suspect I would have had a chance at early remission. At the very least it certainly would have kept me from being maimed by the Boston Scientific Spinal Cord Stimulator that caused a debilitating spread.

For an outlay of about $300.00 you can treat yourself at home for as long as you need to.
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Thanks for correcting a prior post which referred to tDCS as being invasive and quite costly. I also tried some of the above mentioned treatment with no improvement. I did not make much significant improvement in symptoms until tDCS. I expect to be using it for the rest of my life or until I go into remission. I am banking on remission!!
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Glad to hear you've had success with tDCS, but I'm sorry to hear you spent so much money on something that was ineffective. I take it you tried neurofeedback, which is a lot like saying you tried learning a new language. I have spent a great deal of time trying to sort the good from the bad, and it is not an easy task. That said, it is next to impossible for a consumer to make an informed decision without investing major time and research into the field. Some people use Z-Scores, whereas some use Othmer's approach, whereas some use QEEG, where some use a mini-QEEG, etc., etc. Anyway, I wouldn't want to take money from someone I didn't help, so I would split the difference if I invested my time and effort. I know most people wouldn't do that, however.

Perhaps you are right about the tDCS for CRPS--the more I read about it, the more convinced I am, but I am still unwilling to incorporate it into my practice due to people's love of lawsuits.

What is the brand you got for $300? Maybe Eve can give that a try before investing in neurofeedback.

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I spent a bundle of money on some of the mentioned treatment approaches. Although the ones I tried were totally ineffective for me I hope they work for others.

If you are limited due to finances you might want to consider tDCS prior to the others. It is non-invasive, very safe, cheap and has a good track record with chronic pain. I wish I had found it early on when I was first diagnosed. Given the strides I have made with it I suspect I would have had a chance at early remission. At the very least it certainly would have kept me from being maimed by the Boston Scientific Spinal Cord Stimulator that caused a debilitating spread.

For an outlay of about $300.00 you can treat yourself at home for as long as you need to.
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I am hoping to begin neurofeedback soon. I also am working with insurance. I noted some of the costs listed by other posters and wanted people in Southern California to know that one of the doctors listed on the article for the research, Caroline Grierson is right near UCLA. I talked with her about costs and she said that she charges $250 for a 2 hour initial assessment and then $125 for each session. This sounds much more reasonable then some of the others. Hope this helps someone!
Part of me wants to treat people for free, but I realize this is not compatible with living, so I don't mind treating people who need help if I have to take a loss. I think $125 dollars is expensive, which is why I originally learned neurofeedback to begin with. As I mentioned before, I would recommend you try mindfulness meditation, and I suggested exploring tDCS, and afterward saw the thread on here about the many wonderful experiences people are having using tDCS.

I am curious what kind of an assessment she does with you. There are several schools of thought on neurofeedback, and it would seem she uses the Othmer approach from looking at her website. If you have any questions about neurofeedback, please feel free to *ask*

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Glad to hear you've had success with tDCS, but I'm sorry to hear you spent so much money on something that was ineffective. I take it you tried neurofeedback, which is a lot like saying you tried learning a new language. I have spent a great deal of time trying to sort the good from the bad, and it is not an easy task. That said, it is next to impossible for a consumer to make an informed decision without investing major time and research into the field. Some people use Z-Scores, whereas some use Othmer's approach, whereas some use QEEG, where some use a mini-QEEG, etc., etc. Anyway, I wouldn't want to take money from someone I didn't help, so I would split the difference if I invested my time and effort. I know most people wouldn't do that, however.

Perhaps you are right about the tDCS for CRPS--the more I read about it, the more convinced I am, but I am still unwilling to incorporate it into my practice due to people's love of lawsuits.

What is the brand you got for $300? Maybe Eve can give that a try before investing in neurofeedback.
For my tDCS treatment I got the Activa Dose II unit and it cost $225. With the purchase of the sponge electrodes, pin connection TENS wires, and the pin to banana coverters so that I could use the unit for tDCS it cost about $300 total for the unit. I don't know if CRPSjames uses the same unit or not but thought I would share as it really is very inexpensive compared to so many other things.
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For my tDCS treatment I got the Activa Dose II unit and it cost $225. With the purchase of the sponge electrodes, pin connection TENS wires, and the pin to banana coverters so that I could use the unit for tDCS it cost about $300 total for the unit. I don't know if CRPSjames uses the same unit or not but thought I would share as it really is very inexpensive compared to so many other things.
Where did you get the unit from? I saw it advertised for $280 on a site.

Also, does it go up and down in increments of .1 mA-min and do they sell the pads and bands?
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Hi Jonathan - Thanks for your response. I never received the treatment. Trying to raise a baby (now toddler) and other life circumstances have left me focusing on everyone but myself. I am still considering it, and also will now check into what others are saying about the tDCS. Where are you located? I was confused as to if you were in the LA area?

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Part of me wants to treat people for free, but I realize this is not compatible with living, so I don't mind treating people who need help if I have to take a loss. I think $125 dollars is expensive, which is why I originally learned neurofeedback to begin with. As I mentioned before, I would recommend you try mindfulness meditation, and I suggested exploring tDCS, and afterward saw the thread on here about the many wonderful experiences people are having using tDCS.

I am curious what kind of an assessment she does with you. There are several schools of thought on neurofeedback, and it would seem she uses the Othmer approach from looking at her website. If you have any questions about neurofeedback, please feel free to *ask*

-Jonathan
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Anyone have personal or anecdotal info on use of above for RSD? Urgently need info, thanks!
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