Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)

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Old 09-27-2011, 08:38 PM #1
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Hi Tomcrps,
I am so sorry you have to feel the pain you are now feeling in your chest. Unfortunately, I have dealt with exactly what you are speaking about. I had a Lidocaine infusion several years ago and took Mexiletine afterwards for years. So I hardly felt the chest pains as you have described because of the Mexiletine. Last year I went off of it during my Ketamine infusion and about a month later had my first booster of ketamine. Well with each hour afterwards the chest pains grew so bad I thought for sure I was having a heart attack (and could not breathe either). Was ambulanced to hospital and all ekg's and bloodwork are normal??? It was strange but since that time I feel exactly as you do too. It feels like an elephant is sitting on your chest! And the burning pain is horrible. I agree. After about another month of this I went back to my holistic neurologist in horrible shape and worse than before ketamine. She has given me iv's of natural vitamins and minerals (RSDers need more than others esp the minerals). It is now a year next month of doing this iv vitamins and I can honestly say it is the only thing (besides God) that has helped me out. I have gotten off ALL opiods (used them for over 5 years) about 3 months of doing so and have not had the bad burning pain as I did prior. What a Godsend it has been for me. I still have burning pain everwhere (full-body for years) and when I am real tired or storm is coming in I have increased burning pain everywhere and joint pain more but nothing like it was before. I think you should try to find someone in your area that will do this iv of natural vitamins. I am headed there tomorrow and I am now doing it only once a month now. It is so great and natural for your body. I would never have the ketamine done again because it changed my body in bad ways (but it did lower the pain...but took alot out of me). I am almost off all medicine now and with each month feel much better. It was a horrible experience I pray no one else ever goes through. Good luck with everything and keep us informed of your health. Two things I have noticed about the burning pain is: 1-meditation and breathing do help to lower the pain. It takes practice and lots of time but at times is the only thing to help me lower the pain. 2-Trying to stop sugar helps keep some of the pain away too. It was hard for me to do as once in awhile I have a sweet tooth but I did notice lower pain when I stopped eating my sweets and tried to stay away from sugary foods.

KittyC said "I wish I had a doctor like Dr. Schwartzman on hand so I can find the perfect treatment for my RSD." I had to chuckle at that one (no disrespect to you) as I have been to over 40 or so doctors since this "journey" began and I can honestly say there is no perfect treatment for rsd. It is up to the patient to find what works for their own body and to find a compassionate doctor to help you through your journey. And a good dose of humor and lots of prayer helps too:.)
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Kathy,
What kind of bad experiences did you have after ketamine infusion? please share your experiences with us.
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Dear Numb,
I have shared my experience with ketamine in many previous postings and I don't want to bore everyone else with them. I believe you can do a search at the top of this page and put in ketamine treatment. You will find a wealth of info from everyone on this site. It took me close to four years to get the stuff and the last year before it was spent 3 times in court fighting work comp to get it. A nurse in the ICU ruined my entire treatment by allowing me to fall and hurt myself while under her "care." I was very close to death and the fall brought back the rsd burning pain about 1,000 times worst than what it ever was before the treatment (yeah if you can imagine that...it was horrible). The ketamine was working up until that point. The fall ruined my life and my family's too and left me unable to care for myself ready for a nursing home in my 40's. I am struggling each and every day to get back to where I was prior to the fall. Would not recommend it for fun.

KC1974--If you doctor denys you coverage maybe you should place a call to your local news and maybe someone will see it and be able to help you and your daughter. Being a parent is hard enough but when you add rsd to the mix it is a mess.

Jerie--said "I have lost a lot of respect for doctors lately. I sometimes wish I could wish this on them and then they would have a clue. They would be quick to act if they had to walk in my shoes for a while." I agree with you 100%!!! I have lost alot of respect for doctors as well esp in the last year. You know as well as I that if others walked in our shoes for even an hour they would be screaming to take it all away! They do not know how lucky they are to not have this mess. It affects so many aspects of our lives. But we have to be strong in order to not let it get the best of us. Can you send me a few bucks from your money tree out back lol. I liked that one. Gave me a good laugh tonight. I needed it.
Best to all. I pray for everyone on this site each night for better days and complete healing for all.
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. Can you send me a few bucks from your money tree out back lol. I liked that one. Gave me a good laugh tonight. I needed it.
Best to all. I pray for everyone on this site each night for better days and complete healing for all.
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Kathy,
Sure!
I've got a $10,000 Zimbabwe bill left. (that will get you about what I got for the US stuff, zip, squat!) I would have been better to just stay home this week.
The VA decided they were going to give me an anesthesiologist referral for a nerve block and gave me a script of tregatrol. Hope that doesn't mess up my vascular system more. Waiting for pain relief for months!
I was surprised that oxycodone was considered a second line on pain. That stuff doesn't do much on nerve pain or that traveling burning. They won't be giving me anymore I'm sure. I have a lesion on my fibula head that gives me a hard time. If I get a nerve block on my entire leg, that should fix that. If not, I'm going to ask for some kind of injection around that bone. That's why I had the foot surgery, hoping it would help my gait so my hip and knee would feel better. That's what I get for thinking again.
The nerve block should let me exercise at least for a while.
Praying too. Should have been listening to the man upstairs to begin with. I had all kinds of road blocks in the way of foot surgery and did it any ways. Puts a whole new perspective on "The stiff necked people of God". Thinking on my own again, lol. I look in the mirror and say to myself, "self, your looking at the problem".
Hope I'm not doing it again on the nerve block....Could be the gift that keeps giving. Oh! I already have that! I'm so lucky. That was sarcasm if you didn't notice. Good luck and God speed to everyone.
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A fellow zimbo with this wonderful nerve pain.... Did you have the nerve block? Did it work? My nerve pain mainly in thoracic area at the front... Nerve block did nothing for me.... TeGratol ?
TE=Jerie;811251]Kathy,
Sure!
I've got a $10,000 Zimbabwe bill left. (that will get you about what I got for the US stuff, zip, squat!) I would have been better to just stay home this week.
The VA decided they were going to give me an anesthesiologist referral for a nerve block and gave me a script of tregatrol. Hope that doesn't mess up my vascular system more. Waiting for pain relief for months!
I was surprised that oxycodone was considered a second line on pain. That stuff doesn't do much on nerve pain or that traveling burning. They won't be giving me anymore I'm sure. I have a lesion on my fibula head that gives me a hard time. If I get a nerve block on my entire leg, that should fix that. If not, I'm going to ask for some kind of injection around that bone. That's why I had the foot surgery, hoping it would help my gait so my hip and knee would feel better. That's what I get for thinking again.
The nerve block should let me exercise at least for a while.
Praying too. Should have been listening to the man upstairs to begin with. I had all kinds of road blocks in the way of foot surgery and did it any ways. Puts a whole new perspective on "The stiff necked people of God". Thinking on my own again, lol. I look in the mirror and say to myself, "self, your looking at the problem".
Hope I'm not doing it again on the nerve block....Could be the gift that keeps giving. Oh! I already have that! I'm so lucky. That was sarcasm if you didn't notice. Good luck and God speed to everyone.
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I was told today by a neurologist that RSD does not spread to your lungs and that I have something affecting many "body Systems" and she could not help me. Is that code for, you don't have insurance and this is too big for me without it?
I thought OMG she thinks I'm wacked too! I had to pay to be insulted again!
So I started looking at the vascular issue instead of the lungs because I had this hyper dialated feeling in my lungs and a flushing up my neck and a moment of whoosiness . The burning in my mouth and lips too. Now it's in my chest wall, so along with "hot pants" I have "hot shirt" too, lol.
Anyways getting back on track, I found on, low and behold, "Wicca Pedia" (grin) the sympathetic nervous system and guess what it does? It dialates the bronchioles. I also found my constipation issue (before opiates) called digestive track peristalsis. The SNS affects organs functions, like pupil dialation, heart rate and force of contraction, renin secretion of the kidney and promotes ejaculation for starters.
Surley this neurologist had SNS 101? My blood pressure increase that too, as goose bumps and of course the famous fire and ice sensations.
BTW I can't chew gum sometimes because the mint makes me crazy lung dialated and my eyes water and nostrils burn like I stuffed vicks in them. I too have felt the icy vein syndrome, I thought I was nuts. Thank God this stuff waxes and wanes durning the day and I have some reprieve from the really ugly stuff.
What hasn't cooled off is the rage I feel towards a few doctors I've been dealing with, egotistic jerks. I really enjoy being treated like a child and a nut case by the educated elite in the medical community. I have lost a lot of respect for doctors lately. I sometimes wish I could wish this on them and then they would have a clue. They would be quick to act if they had to walk in my shoes for a while. Sorry for venting, I just flushed 400 bucks down the drain on doctors, like I have a money tree in the back yard. Tomorrow I'll go yank a couple hundred more off and go see another one.
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Blank close to an on point article from Drs. Irwin and Schwartzman

Dear Jerie, Kathy, Kitty, Tom & all affected -

I just saw this thread and can't believe - although of course I do - what you and others are going through.

And speaking of Dr. Schwartzman, check out what I came across this weekend: Complex regional pain syndrome with associated chest wall dystonia: a case report, Irwin DJ, Schwartzman RJ, J Brachial Plex Peripher Nerve Inj. 2011 Sep 26;6(1):6. [Epub ahead of print] FULL TEXT @ http://www.jbppni.com/content/pdf/1749-7221-6-6.pdf:

Abstract
Patients with complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS) often suffer from an array of associated movement disorders, including dystonia of an affected limb. We present a case of a patient with long standing CRPS after a brachial plexus injury, who after displaying several features of the movement disorder previously, developed painful dystonia of chest wall musculature. Detailed neurologic examination found palpable sustained contractions of the pectoral and intercostal muscles in addition to surface allodynia. Needle electromyography of the intercostal and paraspinal muscles supported the diagnosis of dystonia. In addition, pulmonary function testing showed both restrictive and obstructive features in the absence of a clear cardiopulmonary etiology. Treatment was initiated with intrathecal baclofen and the patient had symptomatic relief and improvement of dystonia. This case illustrates a novel form of the movement disorder associated with CRPS with response to intrathecal baclofen treatment.

PMID: 21943053 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21943053

Granted, the case report deals with a CRPS patient who had dystonia per se of the chest wall, but it was interesting to see that she responded to intrathecal baclofen treatment. I share it for what it's worth and wish all better days.

Mike

PS to Jerie: I leave it to your judgment whether this is worth sharing with your neurologist.
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