[ginnie]

Dear fmichael and the list,
Chemar gave me your name michael and told me to try this forum for help. I have been caught between a family trust and the Government social agencies. My family is abusing me emotionally, and has been for the past nine years, there is no communication because I want to move from my home. the Gov. does not give me enough to live where I do. I am dissabled and I will at some point be forced out of my home, as I cannot pay my taxes or the expenses of living here in this tiny beach house on the west coast. My family will inherrit this home and will not sign off on the trust so I can move. Not only will they not sign off, I am permitted no communication with my daughter, or my grandson, now two years old. My son in law decided I am a bad person because I moved my best friend in with me to help with my dissabilites and to live here with the chores and all. Two girls are sinful and he stated I am not allowed to see my grandchild. I have cried a river and have sought legal help this past week. Gulf coast legal services said I was four months too young to qualify for help at that pro-Bono agency. I am now at a loss on where to go for help again. I hav e been trying to seek legal help now for years, and I can find noone to listen to my story or my case and help. I ran out of money in dec. of 09 and am now on public assistance. Nobody yet will hear me and I am in a state of depression. I am being abused and I need help to get out of the situation I am in. I have begged my family to let me move for 9 years, as my insurance was cancelled. I now live on a beach with no insurance becasue I became disabled and lost my job and my income, and my ability to keep this place. If I just leave the house, my two adult children and one very bad son-in-law, will own my home. this is my home only while I live in it. At the time the trust was made, my son-in law was hovering as a boyfriend and asking about my mothers trust. My family never stopped asking me for money. when I had to stop because I was failing, my son in law told me I was not wanted in their lives and I would not be welcome there. This home of theirs by the way was givien to them in the form of a large sum of money due from the trust to them. I am not allowed in the home my mother purchased for them. My son inherrited a home also. So did I. My mother thought that if I got in trouble that my loving family would do the right thing by me. My mother was wrong and money made all of them greedy. this is what this is about. It is OK that I wind up homeless to them as long as they get my home. Being broke and destitute is OK with them, and they could care less that I am in physical and emotional pain. I wanted to move to where I could have cheap insurance and shelter in place during a storm. All homes in my state over 50 years old were cancelled. I am a sitting duck on a barrier island with the storms. I don't want to live like this. I have been abandoned by my family over a trust. I need to break the trust in order to move. I need help. I am desperate, and ever so sad over it. Can anyone here help me to move forward in some kind of direction so I can have hope again.?Can I tell the world through the PC? Do I go to a Senator? Do I call more agencies that say no, what do I do? please help with advise. ginnie

[fmichael]

Originally Posted by ginnie

Dear fmichael and the list,
Chemar gave me your name michael and told me to try this forum for help. I have been caught between a family trust and the Government social agencies. My family is abusing me emotionally, and has been for the past nine years, there is no communication because I want to move from my home. the Gov. does not give me enough to live where I do. I am dissabled and I will at some point be forced out of my home, as I cannot pay my taxes or the expenses of living here in this tiny beach house on the west coast. My family will inherrit this home and will not sign off on the trust so I can move. Not only will they not sign off, I am permitted no communication with my daughter, or my grandson, now two years old. My son in law decided I am a bad person because I moved my best friend in with me to help with my dissabilites and to live here with the chores and all. Two girls are sinful and he stated I am not allowed to see my grandchild. I have cried a river and have sought legal help this past week. Gulf coast legal services said I was four months too young to qualify for help at that pro-Bono agency. I am now at a loss on where to go for help again. I hav e been trying to seek legal help now for years, and I can find noone to listen to my story or my case and help. I ran out of money in dec. of 09 and am now on public assistance. Nobody yet will hear me and I am in a state of depression. I am being abused and I need help to get out of the situation I am in. I have begged my family to let me move for 9 years, as my insurance was cancelled. I now live on a beach with no insurance becasue I became disabled and lost my job and my income, and my ability to keep this place. If I just leave the house, my two adult children and one very bad son-in-law, will own my home. this is my home only while I live in it. At the time the trust was made, my son-in law was hovering as a boyfriend and asking about my mothers trust. My family never stopped asking me for money. when I had to stop because I was failing, my son in law told me I was not wanted in their lives and I would not be welcome there. This home of theirs by the way was givien to them in the form of a large sum of money due from the trust to them. I am not allowed in the home my mother purchased for them. My son inherrited a home also. So did I. My mother thought that if I got in trouble that my loving family would do the right thing by me. My mother was wrong and money made all of them greedy. this is what this is about. It is OK that I wind up homeless to them as long as they get my home. Being broke and destitute is OK with them, and they could care less that I am in physical and emotional pain. I wanted to move to where I could have cheap insurance and shelter in place during a storm. All homes in my state over 50 years old were cancelled. I am a sitting duck on a barrier island with the storms. I don't want to live like this. I have been abandoned by my family over a trust. I need to break the trust in order to move. I need help. I am desperate, and ever so sad over it. Can anyone here help me to move forward in some kind of direction so I can have hope again.?Can I tell the world through the PC? Do I go to a Senator? Do I call more agencies that say no, what do I do? please help with advise. ginnie

Dear Ginnie -

Okay. Please be advised that I am no longer a practicing attorney, but I will try and refer you to a group that may help. But first, I didn't quite understand when you said:

Gulf coast legal services said I was four months too young to qualify for help at that pro-Bono agency.

So just for starters, a few questions:

How old are you? (If it turns out that you are 64 and 2/3's then it's my guess that the agency that turned you down was considering a theory under what's called Elder Abuse.)

In what state do you live?

In what state do your daughter and son-in-law live?

In which state was the trust established?

Finally, you say you are on public assistance, have you ever applied for SSDI? (And if so, what happened?)

I can't make any promises, but I'll do what I can. Please get back to me with the requested information.

Mike

[Chemar]

Hi Ginnie
I have copied your posts over from the other thread so you can talk here with others who may be able to point you to help.

hope things work out for you

[ginnie]

Thank you Michael for responding. I am 59 years old. I got an initial interview by phone with gulf coast legal services. They said I told them I was 60 which I did not. I told them my birthday on the phone. When I appeared for the appointment I was told I had to be 60 to get help with their agency. that was it, I had prepared three months. The initial interviewer would not have given me the appt. to begin with if there were no merit in it. They screen you quite well and ask alot of questions. So I was dissapointed of course. I have been looking for help for a long time.
I live in Fla. The trust was written down here. My son-in law and my daughter live in missouri where I raised her. I am allowed no contact with her or my grandchild as I was told to my face I was not wanted in their lives, nor in the life of any future child. This occured two years now, my grandson will be two the 29th of aug. I don't have a picture and did not know of his birth for almost a year. My daughter was close to my mom too. My mom wanted to help my family, not be torn to bits over money and a trust. My son in law was an X marine, very tough individual. My daughter was in special education for most of her life. She was discouraged from having any relationship with me from the beginning of their marriage. He had wanted to see the trust before she was married. This whole thin is greed and having power over somebody. My EX was put into the trust to, as another person to have to sign off if I were to sell my house. He has contact with my daughter, but I do not at all. She lives with her husband and my grandson in the state of missouri. My Ex lives in missouri also.
I have SSDI, thats what they took away from me in order to eat. the trust is used by the various agencies to hurt me, or say that it benefits me when it does not. I could not pay my taxes here because i do not recieve enough from my SSDI and medicaid to exist here, much less pay my taxes. In order to receive my food stamps, I was required to pay my son back in the form of rent to pay him back for paying my taxes. I do not own this house. It is in the trust. So now I exist on 296 per month, and I am wondering what the heck I am going to do but go down in debt. I have to pay most of that money back to my son. My monther gave me this home to protect me. She didn't want the state to come after me or the assets if I became sick. I am also not allowed to possess the amount of money that my taxes requires. My insurance was cancelled, so I am a sitting duck for the storms. That is why I am begging my family to let me move. So I pay rent on a paid for home. Believe me my son who does want me to move. He is the last person in the world that wants to collect rent from a home I already paid for with my mother. We must do this to pay him back the taxes i borrowed in order to live here. It is all a mess and I am desperate for help. thanks for responce of any kind. ginnie The family as a whole had to sign off on the trust, my son in law made sure my daughter would never respond.

[ginnie]

Thank you Chemar, I appreciate it. It is hard enough in life with dissabilites, but then to add your own family against you, that is outright painfull. We are a family divided two to two. My mother would never have wanted this for me, and this was not her intent, to put me in a position of helplessness with my family. Her goal was to protect me from the state coming after assests when I got sick. that didn't work eithor as you know. If you have any monies at all, they are used up before you receive any kind of help. what is written in doesn't matter to the state. Medicaid actually asked me what the darn document said. Thats a sad state of affairs when they don't know. So I will try here for awhile to see what people say and get more ideas on how to help myself. the case I present is well thought out and documented. The moneis generated from the sale of this house is what my missouri family wants, even if that means I am in the street. In my opinion that is wrong when they already received monies from the trust in excess. Hurricanes are as scarry as all the tonadoes up north. No insurance is something I loose sleep over during the hurricane season. I have tried a long time to find help. Thanks again. ginnie

[hannah1234]

Ginnie: I just want to say hang in there. I am not educated in this department but I understand the rsd completely. You will be in my prayers, and lets think positive you can find something/somebody to help you out. Hang in there. I am so sorry you are going through this, but you can get through it.
Hannah

[Sonny1]

Ginnie, your story is all to sad but real in this world of greed. I also have no legal knowledge of this situation, but wonder why your son cannot try to help you a bit more? If you are "required" to pay him rent for the taxes and he knows you are broke, can't he kick back some of the $$ to you so you can live? I am not trying to sound mean, but it sounds as if you are at the breaking point and stress makes the illness and pain worse.

There has to be some legal way to get the courts to acknowledge the situation with the part of the family that is trying to sabotage your life. If the court's saw how they were avoiding you or "disowning you", there has to be somebody there to advocate for you..does florida have a legal aide department? Having a trust with a number of people and your financial situation definitely needs some legal advice.

please don't give up, look for legal aide in your county, town...if you can't find any, go to your assemblymen, legislators and up the ladder..these people are all voted into their positions

[fmichael]

Dear Ginnie -

I think I'm starting to understand, but a few things still have me confused, including this:

In order to receive my food stamps, I was required to pay my son back in the form of rent to pay him back for paying my taxes. I do not own this house. It is in the trust. So now I exist on 296 per month, and I am wondering what the heck I am going to do but go down in debt. I have to pay most of that money back to my son.

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Believe me my son who does want me to move. He is the last person in the world that wants to collect rent from a home I already paid for with my mother. We must do this to pay him back the taxes i borrowed in order to live here

What I don't understand is how it is, why set the terms of the "rent" so high that you are only left with $296 every month? Is there a specific reason he needs to be paid back so quickly?

And then, if I may, three additional questions:

I assume no conservator has been appointed for you (correct me if I'm wrong) but am less sure whether you were designated as the party to administer your SSDI when it was awarded. By that I mean, does the money go into your account or that of someone else, such as your son?

Did you get any back award when you qualified for SSDI, and if so, what happened to it?

And finally, do the trust documents say anything specific about how property taxes and/or insurance will be paid on the house and whose responsibility it is to do so?

Thanks for bearing with me.

Mike

ps If you are not comfortable answering this in the forum, which is freely available to outside internet users and/or search engines, feel free to send me a private message (PM).

[ginnie]

Hi sonny, yes I am going through all my options, none present. I have been to the court house, and worked down their list. I don't qualify for much help in any organization I can find. I hope Michael will have some direction. The last agency said I was too young to qualify for their pro-bono work. Too young to be abused? Yes I am at a breaking point, as all finances are going down hill. Nobody can live on 296. Yes my son can and does kick back by putting on a new back door, but he can't actually give me money back. We are commplying with what the agencies expect us to do as I don't want to get caught doing something I am not suppose to. I am so afraid of loosing what little I get I am sick. I loose my food stamps if I do not do this action of paying him $4oo for rent. I paid for this house already and for the life of me I can't fiqure out why I am paying for it again, when my son who will own it, is willing to pay the taxes. Why am I being punished by my government for having this home? Combine this with the loss of my daughter and grandson, and my health, altogether I'm not doing so hot. This must have a resolution as I cannot stay here. My family that does not speak to me, will then get half of what this house is. Sean of course would give me his half. Still I would get nothing as I am not allowed help. I am not willing to give half the home I earned to my cruel family, not now, not ever, it will be over my dead body that I give into this kind of cruelty. I need legal help, no doubt about it and I have a case to present in its entirety. It took me three months to organize into logical secquence with all that had happened. Noone wants to look at it because I am poor. I thought in our country you are allowed legal representation when you are being abused. where is that help? Thank you for caring. it does matter, that is why I came to this site, looking for a miracle I think. ginnie

[ginnie]

My son cannot relate to me as he is absorbed in his own depression. He doesn't want to go through my problems with the family. He would rather remove himself from the problem. He can't deal with his own. I am dissapointed that I have no real support from him He could do alot more, and I do not know why he refuses. He could talk and insist to speak to the family but he does not. He said he already talked enough, they said no. I wrote a letter to the family in Jan. pleading to deaf ears. I have done all I can do other than legal help which so far is not around. ginnie