Hannah that is great advise. I had problems a couple of years ago with any kind of morphine based medication. It just started to ruin my teeth, I mean really ruin my teeth, which where fine before all this happened. I have also heard the same about actiq, but I never tried Actiq.

Wishing you the best.

gabbycakes

Hi, gabbycakes:

Just a side note: your screen name makes me want to eat cakes, since I love eating sweet stuff..., especially cakes, cookies, and ice cream.

Quote: "I had problems a couple of years ago with any kind of morphine based medication." Do you mean all morphine based medications ruined your teeth? I could understand this would happen with Actiq, if you did not brush your teeth, because Actiq is a lollypop, thus, a candy. Everyone, children like adults, has to brush their teeth after eating lollypops or candies. I personally never had any teeth problems with Actiq or other narcotics; is it because I brushed my teeth? I also brushed my two-year-old baby boy's teeth after the doctor gave me some Actiq for him to take after his one heart, two lungs, and two kidneys transplant.

I am not on methadone or as needed meds but had some mood issues that my mom was very concerned about. Anyhow I was pushed to see a psychiatrist who put me on meds to help with stabalizing my moods. It did seem to help that aspect though sometimes I feel it is the time and issue I am in. Does that make sense? I am not sure if you find methadone helpful pain wise but I am wondering if there is a med you can use in addition for the mood?

I would strongly recommend discussing with your doctors the use use either dextromethorphan HBr (DM) or "low dose naltrexone" (LDN) to "potentiate" the effect of the opioids you are already on, i.e., doing more with less. And as far as DM is concerned, we've had a couple of good thread on this. Check out Dextromethorphan working for burning pain http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...d.php?t=140566 and Dextromethorphan for pain?? http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...d.php?t=135535

I believe there have been threads on LDN as well, but this is a relatively new article worth the look: Ultra-low dose naltrexone attenuates chronic morphine-induced gliosis in rats, Mattioli TA, Milne B, Cahill CM, Mol. Pain 2010 Apr 16; 6: 22, FULL TEXT @ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...-8069-6-22.pdf:

Abstract

BACKGROUND: The development of analgesic tolerance following chronic morphine administration can be a significant clinical problem. Preclinical studies demonstrate that chronic morphine administration induces spinal gliosis and that inhibition of gliosis prevents the development of analgesic tolerance to opioids. Many studies have also demonstrated that ultra-low doses of naltrexone inhibit the development of spinal morphine antinociceptive tolerance and clinical studies demonstrate that it has opioid sparing effects. In this study we demonstrate that ultra-low dose naltrexone attenuates glial activation, which may contribute to its effects on attenuating tolerance.

RESULTS: Spinal cord sections from rats administered chronic morphine showed significantly increased immuno-labelling of astrocytes and microglia compared to saline controls, consistent with activation. 3-D images of astrocytes from animals administered chronic morphine had significantly larger volumes compared to saline controls. Co-injection of ultra-low dose naltrexone attenuated this increase in volume, but the mean volume differed from saline-treated and naltrexone-treated controls. Astrocyte and microglial immuno-labelling was attenuated in rats co-administered ultra-low dose naltrexone compared to morphine-treated rats and did not differ from controls. Glial activation, as characterized by immunohistochemical labelling and cell size, was positively correlated with the extent of tolerance developed. Morphine-induced glial activation was not due to cell proliferation as there was no difference observed in the total number of glial cells following chronic morphine treatment compared to controls. Furthermore, using 5-bromo-2-deoxyuridine, no increase in spinal cord cell proliferation was observed following chronic morphine administration.

CONCLUSION: Taken together, we demonstrate a positive correlation between the prevention of analgesic tolerance and the inhibition of spinal gliosis by treatment with ultra-low dose naltrexone. This research provides further validation for using ultra-low dose opioid receptor antagonists in the treatment of various pain syndromes.

PMID: 20398374 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID: PMC2862024

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20398374

Hope this is helpful.

Mike


ps Would pulled the LDN threads, but we're going out of town for a week, the cab is due here in an hour and 20 and I'm neither showered nor packed. Yikes!!!

Krank,
I've been on methadone for about 20 years, started at 19-15 mgs./ day, 2nd accident, went up to 100 mgs. titrated down to 50-60, which is where I am now.
I have never had any side effect such as mood swings, other than constipation, which a bit of miralax otc, works fine for.
AS someone else said, your mood swings are from all the anxiety that comes with pain, and life. You may want to consider speaking to your doctor about Cymbalta. It is an anti -depreessant, that also has been found to help with nerve pain! I take 60 mgs of that /day.
Also, in day to day relationships, remember that perchance if your wife is in a 'mood', she's going to see you as a 'mirror', as we all tend to reflect some moods to one another. All you can do is make a conscious effort to be 'happy'! I suggest it!

Be well!

Pete
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I am on Pristiq right now for my mood....And...He(my psych guy) upped it...My other head guy(psychologist) doesnt know what to do...Hes sort of a push over...I guess Im going through some stuff right now..and my mood isnt that pleasant..and we think the meth doesnt help..Id hate to rot my teeth...so...actiq is probably out for me. I guess Im not that disciplined at brushing my teeth...Im thinking a shot or two of rum a day may help...but I dont think they will give a prescription for it...I just need a maintenance med that will do the job without making me dr jeckyl. Thanks eveyone I appreciate your input. krank