Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)

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Old 03-04-2008, 10:36 AM #1
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No amount of common sense can make up for statistical facts that are presented in a well written response to incorrect data.
That is not hubris nor is it being full of one's self. It is applying what one has learned along the way to approve or negate a hypothesis that has been presented.
It ends up making everyone better informed !!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one should ever be chastised/ignored/belittled for presenting the truth with statistical facts to back it up ,in a well presented concise manner.
And that my friends is what has been going on here .
That is what these kind people are trying to say has happened to them in the nicest way possible if I may be so bold to come to their defense and to mine

And to those championing " Free speech" even for those they despise.- even "Free Speech " has limits imposed on it by the constitution.You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater .You cannot just write stuff about people and and just because you write it ,believe that it somehow becomes the truth .That is NOT what is meant by" free speech".That is why there is something called libel .
Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed or fixed medium mmm possibly the internet??? though traditionally in magazines and newspapers.
However the the super highway falls into this category in ever increasing numbers since it's inception.

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GnP

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But not all statistical facts apply to everyone. Facts like that are based upon mostly a small amount of people. Therefore common sense has to come into play.

And I do agree with you "No one should ever be chastised/ignored/belittled for presenting the truth with statistical facts to back it up ,in a well presented concise manner." But that should go for everyone.

As for Freedom of Speech....you can write what you 'know' as the truth...sometimes it is wrong...but it is what you know...and until you know and are shown otherwise...you assume it is truth. No one is perfect.

It's like you can sit 10 people in a straight line and tell the first person a sentence like ' I made a chocolate cake', and by the time it's passed on to 10 other ppl..it becomes 'I saw a chocolate cow'....therefore, what one person knows as the truth, might not always be correct. But it what they heard. So it's hard to judge that line in freedom of speech.

Ada, I am so sorry this happened to Bill. Bless your heart girl, I know he was your life.

I've taken meds that have affected my thinking as well. That dang neurotten, I never knew what I was doing from one min. to the next.

My husband started taking a med, to help loose weight awhile back, and he became Dr. J and Mr. Hyde...real fast...and I told him real fast it was going in the trash can. He would be fine one minute and the next he'd bite ya head off...and you'd be like..what the?!

I think meds can affect everyone differently...and I think they can give people a false sense of security. I've known ppl who took prozac and went nuts...and they were fine before taking it, and let them miss a dose and it was WW3....

Thanks for starting this thread Ada, it makes a lot of sense girl.

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No amount of common sense can make up for statistical facts that are presented in a well written response to incorrect data.
That is not hubris nor is it being full of one's self. It is applying what one has learned along the way to approve or negate a hypothesis that has been presented.
It ends up making everyone better informed !!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one should ever be chastised/ignored/belittled for presenting the truth with statistical facts to back it up ,in a well presented concise manner.
And that my friends is what has been going on here .
That is what these kind people are trying to say has happened to them in the nicest way possible if I may be so bold to come to their defense and to mine

And to those championing " Free speech"- even "Free Speech " has limits imposed on it by the constitution.You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater .You cannot just write stuff about people and and just because you write it becomes the truth .That is NOT what is meant by" free speech".That is why there is something called libel.

In peace
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Hi GnP,

I get you.

I would never argue the point with, for arguments sake a Mechanic who had been successfully performing his job for decades, as one would presume quite comfortably that he would be somewhat of an expert at his profession.

If I tried to put forward an unsubstantiated hypothesis to him about mechanics I could not possibly expect him to accept it without discussion and I could not feel "set upon" or "stalked" when he offered me the correct facts UNLESS I had proof of what I was hypothesising to back me up.

In medicine there are some things that are simply black and white, no argument, no discussion, just fact based on sound medical knowledge and research over the ages.

With RSD/CRPS we have not reached that stage, nobody is really an expert even if they profess to be one.
After 8 years of study and 32 years in the Medical Profession I am still learning but there are SOME things that I am confident that I am knowledgable about.

This disease is a difficult one, we are all sick, many of us VERY sick. This forum needs to be one of support and caring and listening, not abuse and backstabbing.
Surely nobody feels good about what has been going on?
All I can say is 'what a shame'

Regards Tayla
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