Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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Old 07-21-2012, 01:44 PM #21
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Exactly Catra!

IF there is a chance of the medical portion of WC going away, and we go to a system of insurance with no pre existing conditions being an issue, that would take care of a lot of the wastefulness.

Injured Workers are spoken of so frequently with disdain. Until someone goes through the experience themselves or a family member, they just don't understand.

A national WC system would also be a good idea IMO. Things vary so widely from state to state.

RSD is more complicated and unpredictable than many common work injuries. So, I think we're susceptible to the systems shortcomings in a way that many Injured Workers just aren't.

It's odd, but there seems to be a major shift in the culture where people have very little empathy for the disabled, or ill. Or maybe I'm just getting cynical as I get older?

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I am saddened by the truth behind all of this.. The world looks to itself instead of others, then to others first. I try to teach my children right. It is even in proper speech. that when speaking of yourself and another or a group that you come last, that others come first.
If this is how our speech was originated, then that means that we a a group are"expected" to care for each other. In all I know and feel. most people wish this is how the world will be but the truth is it gets worse as time goes on.
the more people that live the less others are thought of first. selfishness becomes the way of life. .. survival of the fittest become the law. and truth is as a species we come up short of being fit of the eden we have been given. I have heard that man had been cast from eden. I do not believe it .. we corrupt it. no matter what religion or belief you have I'm sure this can be seen as true.
we are seeing this corruption with the way the system treats US. ok I've ranted on and on and on and ..ok Ill stop. If there was a way to change this . I wish it would present itself. and then i would pray that I was smart enough to recognize it and what to do at that point. Until then we wade in this pool together with either comp, no-fault, or private insurance. we each have our obstacles to over come.. and thankfully we have each other here to help in this labyrinth . god speed every one. soft hugs to you all
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Exactly Catra!

IF there is a chance of the medical portion of WC going away, and we go to a system of insurance with no pre existing conditions being an issue, that would take care of a lot of the wastefulness.

Injured Workers are spoken of so frequently with disdain. Until someone goes through the experience themselves or a family member, they just don't understand.

A national WC system would also be a good idea IMO. Things vary so widely from state to state.

RSD is more complicated and unpredictable than many common work injuries. So, I think we're susceptible to the systems shortcomings in a way that many Injured Workers just aren't.

It's odd, but there seems to be a major shift in the culture where people have very little empathy for the disabled, or ill. Or maybe I'm just getting cynical as I get older?

End rant...
Hmmmm......I will speak as someone who did industrial medical examinations for almost two decades in my state. In an effort to battle "fraud" our WC laws changed a few years back to resemble more of a "nationally" based system. The treating physician was no longer given the dubious honor of being most correct about the status of an injured worker, rather it was handed over to the State.

While all WC laws are State-regulated right now, I can clearly tell you without equivocation that the injured worker is far worse in my state now since the "change" and only the injured worker was adversly affected. The system is cheaper to run now and the premiums are less for the employers, but care is now rationed, reduced, antiquated and takes forever to authorize since control of care is over-regulated and not driven by the treating doc. You get what you pay for...
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I'm in CA and was "lucky" (lol) to be injured prior to WC reform here. You might be right, as bad as it is here, some state's are even scarier. I know that many of us have to consider relocation after becoming permanently disabled, and yet it seems I might be trapped here because of all the complications that will come with WC billing from another state. I'd like to think if there was a single national system, it would garner more attention from those that might be able to effect a more fair system.

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Hmmmm......I will speak as someone who did industrial medical examinations for almost two decades in my state. In an effort to battle "fraud" our WC laws changed a few years back to resemble more of a "nationally" based system. The treating physician was no longer given the dubious honor of being most correct about the status of an injured worker, rather it was handed over to the State.

While all WC laws are State-regulated right now, I can clearly tell you without equivocation that the injured worker is far worse in my state now since the "change" and only the injured worker was adversly affected. The system is cheaper to run now and the premiums are less for the employers, but care is now rationed, reduced, antiquated and takes forever to authorize since control of care is over-regulated and not driven by the treating doc. You get what you pay for...
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Hmmmm......I will speak as someone who did industrial medical examinations for almost two decades in my state. In an effort to battle "fraud" our WC laws changed a few years back to resemble more of a "nationally" based system. The treating physician was no longer given the dubious honor of being most correct about the status of an injured worker, rather it was handed over to the State.

While all WC laws are State-regulated right now, I can clearly tell you without equivocation that the injured worker is far worse in my state now since the "change" and only the injured worker was adversly affected. The system is cheaper to run now and the premiums are less for the employers, but care is now rationed, reduced, antiquated and takes forever to authorize since control of care is over-regulated and not driven by the treating doc. You get what you pay for...
The reform a couple of years ago did only benefit the corporations. but here is the kick of it all. I have been paying into this system since I was 9. yep illegal but Ive been a tax paying citizen for that long. I never complained about it as it only gave me moore to add into ssi. but this is too much . It isn't taken into account my desire to work and feel like a contributing part of the world. only that the bottom line is satisfied. so if comp doesn't exist to make sure injured workers are cared for, or to make sure proper care is given to aid in the return to work.. whats the point.??? what is the point of it all? just to make sure others keep making money off my misfortune?? I am dis illusioned and loosing faith in it all.
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The reform a couple of years ago did only benefit the corporations. but here is the kick of it all. I have been paying into this system since I was 9. yep illegal but Ive been a tax paying citizen for that long. I never complained about it as it only gave me moore to add into ssi. but this is too much . It isn't taken into account my desire to work and feel like a contributing part of the world. only that the bottom line is satisfied. so if comp doesn't exist to make sure injured workers are cared for, or to make sure proper care is given to aid in the return to work.. whats the point.??? what is the point of it all? just to make sure others keep making money off my misfortune?? I am dis illusioned and loosing faith in it all.
I hear ya, brother. It's a racket. I was stuck in the middle for decades as a provider watching people being denied or delayed care right and left, helpless while knowing that there was something I could do to help but would not be authorized or allowed to treat in the way that I had learned and thought would work. For both SSI and WC, the problem lies in that there are closer to an infinite number of cases, diagnoses, etc. to be dealt with by a finite amount of money that is first shaved down by the "administrators and their henchmen."

Therefore, SSI, WC or any other controlled system that is throttled back can only work with rationing, delays and denials. I don't know what the answer is but it can never work when there is a centralized body that is neither the patient nor provider making the clinical decisions.
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I hear ya, brother. It's a racket. I was stuck in the middle for decades as a provider watching people being denied or delayed care right and left, helpless while knowing that there was something I could do to help but would not be authorized or allowed to treat in the way that I had learned and thought would work. For both SSI and WC, the problem lies in that there are closer to an infinite number of cases, diagnoses, etc. to be dealt with by a finite amount of money that is first shaved down by the "administrators and their henchmen."

Therefore, SSI, WC or any other controlled system that is throttled back can only work with rationing, delays and denials. I don't know what the answer is but it can never work when there is a centralized body that is neither the patient nor provider making the clinical decisions.
the problem is that they don't really know the patient. and think that all patients are trying to cheat the system. what they need to do is see the dr,s notation. and if more than one dr is saying the same thing(including theirs) they should back off. and these separations between states. carriers such as comp and no fault that are governed should run by the same guide lines through the entire U.S. making it easier to get treatment. .Im pretty sure if this keeps up we will be saying ..I pledge allegiance to corporate america...
well I pray that an answer opens up for us all. be well and godspeed
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No fault won that case... Im on comp...
This was not in a "no fault" state. Please don't jump to conclusions. And yes, I understand the general discussion here is WC.
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This was not in a "no fault" state. Please don't jump to conclusions. And yes, I understand the general discussion here is WC.
I apologize if you took offense. none was intended. I was just stating that with this beast it should have been more. though I do understand how it could be less aggravating to settle for the long term of dealing with the NF/WC claims.
also I was making no judgement (I wouldn't. that would be too unfair to everybody that comes to this forum) many different ways this beast effects people making no two case the same.in regards to insurance, treatment, and pain. IN my YEARS I did a lot of professional medical billing , and I specialized in comp/nofault and liability . None of that matters on this end of the line. Its a fight no matter how you look at it. I wish you well. and days filled with less pain..
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I was wondering if anyof you can give me some opinions on the SCS.
I am a 23 year old male with rsd of the right ankle and it is spreading up my right leg and is currently from my knee down... I was wondering how well the SCS works mainly because I have a beautiful one year old daughter and can't run around and play with her.... I would greatly appreciate it if y'all could give me a little input on the SCS and any other types of methods besides opids
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