Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)

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Old 07-13-2009, 10:47 AM #1
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I agree with AintSoBad, get those records, they have to give'em up because it's the law! Find a RSD doctor now and bring your records and keep collecting your records.
Lindkaye: I do agree about getting those records. Also like you it took me years before I was dx. Fianally all it took was a Dr who did an EMG on my L leg. then that was it. Breezy55 Hang in there!
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I have a binder of every apt and test I have had. I bring that to the next doc. For myself I have seen so many specialists and had 3,4 etc opinions I have got varing input and things they feel may help. I never jump into anything and always look at the pros and cons before I do it. I would get another opinion on freezing the nerve. Before I was dx with rsd and pn one doc wanted to TTS surgery which would of been one of the worst things to have done and I am glad I did not. I am not saying you are the same but that you have to be careful. Also a doctor who will not answer your ?'s or concerns is not a doc I would do anything with even meds. Just my opinions. I had a doc send me out of his office with a video on a scs. Even if I were to have done it it would of not been with him who can't take 2 min. That is just my opinion.
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I agree with getting your records... but please know... they don't have "GIVE" your records... They can and most will charge you so much per page----it can get quite expensive.

I have not had one doctor tell me I don't have RSD... In fact... I have seen 9 docs and all 9 concurred with my having RSD...this is rare or so I have been told.

I truly wish you the best... I hope you are able to find your true diagnosis soon.


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I agree with getting your records... but please know... they don't have "GIVE" your records... They can and most will charge you so much per page----it can get quite expensive.

I have not had one doctor tell me I don't have RSD... In fact... I have seen 9 docs and all 9 concurred with my having RSD...this is rare or so I have been told.

I truly wish you the best... I hope you are able to find your true diagnosis soon.


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I'm pretty darn sure they have to give you the records by law. Yes, they can charge you copy fees, but they have to give them up.
http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/Books/lbb/x201.htm
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I'm pretty darn sure they have to give you the records by law. Yes, they can charge you copy fees, but they have to give them up.
http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/Books/lbb/x201.htm

My apologies... I did mean that they can and often will charge for copies...many will not just give you copies without charging a fee. Sometimes it is a base fee plus a per page fee.

I apologize.. I just didn't get it worded correctly...
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I understand. If I came off rough around the edges I apologize. Having been through the ringer with my wife with RSD and acquiring records, many in which are incomplete as DejaVu stated and in the dark about why my wife has not received her due compensation from Social Security, in the dark as far as doctor's submitted records to SS and what they in-fact say. That is one more hurdle I'm going to dread. If those records tiptoe around her condition I'm going to get very angry.
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Hi there; thought I would answer a couple of your questions.
Daniella - My orthopedic surgeon was the first that thought I could have RSD from the symptoms and he felt there was nothing more he could do. So he referred me to the pain specialist. After a complete exam by the Pain specialist, and reviewing my records, he gave a clinical diagnoses of RSD. After that, I had 5 or 6 lumbar blocks which did help relieve the pain, only for about 5 hours each, but enough time to get to the Physical therepist. My problem now is that my husband's insurance only covers about 1500.00 per year for PT, which is about 5 or 6 visits. I try to do on my own, but get discouraged I guess too easily. Now with the MS and AS, my balance and pain is increased so it is even harder. I went to the University dr in hopes they could help me with the movement of my leg and plus I am having more pain behind my knee replacement. My pain dr (at another hospital) just seems to want to write the pain prescriptions, but I know I need more than that. I do have a neurologist, but he is for my MS.
Loretta if you could find the name of the dr in seattle, that would be wonderful. I have looked into RSD meetings around - but not energetically - and guess I should as it would probably help. Thanks again for all your responses. It does help to know that other people really do know how you feel!
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My apologies... I did mean that they can and often will charge for copies...many will not just give you copies without charging a fee. Sometimes it is a base fee plus a per page fee.

I apologize.. I just didn't get it worded correctly...
I have wanted to be told that I DO NOT have R S D !! I want some one to find what is wrong and FIX IT !! I never had any injury at all that I can remember.Took 14 Dr. to get a diag. It is so hard to live in pain and only to have treatment and no cure as of yet. I had a S C S almost a year ago and am so grateful that it has given me part of my life back. I however have not been able to even cut back on my meds.-But at least can walk again. I will be anxious to hear how all of this shakes out for you.
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Hi lindakaye!

Yes, it is important to have your record. I have had the experience of having to pay for every page of my records. It can get fairly expensive! However, it is very important. I have found my Primary Care Physician will often give me a set of records, if I ask through him! However, if I request through anyone else, they send me to this record management company, and I am charged $1.00 per page.

(That seems totally outrageous to me. We pay to "generate" the record. It is our record. If we don't abuse this by asking for outrageous numbers of copies, etc., then... I think we should be entitled to at least one free set? "Copying" does not cost $1.00 per page!)

I am not clear, from reading your post. The 3-4 docs in agreement on RSD are not from "this University" you have referred to in your post? Is it the docs at "this University" that want to freeze the nerve, repeatedly...and won't give you an adequate explanation?

Also... if you've had 3-4 docs in agreement, you went to "this University" for?
What were you looking for at the university? More help? Additional confirmation? What?

My experience with some "University" docs? Some are ambitious about "publishing a paper." Some enthusiastically recruit for a "paper," and do not fully explain their "study," the potential adverse effects, and so much more. Be very careful. Some docs are so ambitious about "publishing," they really do not care much about what becomes of the patient. (As their deadline for publishing gets closer, they become more and more desperate... and it shows!)

If they will not adequately explain any procedure to you, they are not respecting you and/or your right to informed consent. If this is the case... run...do not walk... away! Some of these types of docs/researchers prey upon patients truly needing/wanting help. They tap into the desperation and the deep need/desire for relief. Shame on them! Do not allow one of these types to "use" you to their very own advantage.

A really highly ethical research specialist will always explain fully...and will not place you at unnecessary risk. In these cases, if their research has been approved by the research board, there will be paperwork involved, etc. This paperwork will explain your rights, etc. Your participation requires your signature, verifying "informed consent," etc.

I have had the misfortune of knowing some specialists conducting tests on patients/patients blood, etc., without hospital board approval. (They have even diverted blood drawn for the hospital lab... to their personal research labs. There will be no record of this, of course. They will "do alot" in a lab and will talk a lot about what they are supposedly finding; yet, if you look at your record, they document little or nothing!)

I had learned to take my own notes in meetings/appointments with any doctor. I take extra notes when I am suspicious of the doctor/researcher.
I then have dates on notes (that match appt. times/dates) and I have specific topics/results mentioned. In reviewing official records, none of the more detailed info. was on record at all! No match!

In one case, the very serious, immediately threatening condition I'd (supposedly) had that had warranted immediate "xy and z," was never placed in my record! (How can that be? And...this "X, Y and Z" that had needed to be done immediatley was an experimental measure. I had been told it was far too dangerous for me to take time to get a rapid second opinion, too. I was told I would not be walking in 2-3 months if I did not consent immediately. "Immediately" may sometimes signify (tip one off to) "the hustle!" In this case, the "hustle" was blatant! That was over 10 years ago! I still walk... no difference because I did not do what they'd told me I'd had to do right then! No records of these conversations/medical recommendations actually exist! Surprise!

Not many people would suspect these well-known researchers would do anything like this... to anyone... ever. Some of them are dangerously overly ambitious. Thankfully, this is probably not the majority.

The appt. notes did not reflect much of anything we'd discussed! That is very odd...and cause for concern. You might take notes...and keep them on file (in your own file). If this is difficult, you might ask permission to tape the appt. Taping an appt. keeps doctors very honest. They are much more careful about what they say!

I'd finally told the "specialists" that in order to comply with any of their suggestions, they'd have to convince my Primary Care Physician and my rheumy that I'd benefit from a procedure/treatment. This had built in a "safety" for me. If they had to try to "hoodwink" other bright doctors first, they cold not "hustle" me so easily. They'd disappeared once that "safety net" was put in place. All of the nonsense had then stopped.

Just a few thoughts! I am sure many will continue to add to these.

When we need help with chronic illness/pain, we are "sitting ducks" for some of these "less than ethical doctors/researchers." We must be extra careful!

Not all specialists/researchers are unethical. The few that are unethical may make a very negative difference in anyone's life, however.

I hope you find the help you need/deserve!
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