Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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Old 08-24-2009, 11:32 AM #1
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Mr Pete,

Thank you for trying to get a greater understanding. That is more than many in health care try to do.

Like Ali, I have both HOT and COLD. My original RSD area (left foot) feels like it is burning. It gives off heat that others can feel and shows a nice bloom on thermography. It will swell and get red-purple-almost black like from blood pooling. The other foot has developed COLD type, where I feel like I am standing barefoot in the snow. Others can also feel the cold when they touch it.

Yes, Smoke and Marleen are saying "hands off" because there are times that any contact at all can be excruciating, but I know you are probably seeing people with "mild" cases, who are asking for your service. That being said, I think you should know that anything very cold will hurt, even with us that have the HOT type. It seems attractive, but because our nerves are screwed up, we can't always tell when it has been on too long, like "normal" people. Ice can literally damage the skin. Better to use slightly cool, like a few degrees lower than room temperature. A cool bath is good, because it will not cause any damage. NEVER ICE!

On the other hand, I can't seem to apply enough heat to make my right foot feel good for more than a couple of minutes. I will go to south Florida and bury my foot in the hot beach sand to attempt to warm it up! I keep a heating pad under my desk year-round, and I will wear a chemical foot warmer in my shoe even in warm weather. In that type of case, you could use warm compresses, but never a real hot pad directly on the RSD site. Again, we lack the proper nerve response to know when it might be causing a burn.

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Thanks for trying to help to get a better understanding.

Mike
Might I ask though; can we be actually injured by not knowing that we are being burned/frozen?
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Mine is hot. My body temperature is always very very warm. My husband says sleeping with me is like having an oven in bed. I have full body RSD/CRPS. I use to love summer now with RSD I count the days until it is cold again. During the summer my skin is bright red without going in th sun (which I avoid). In the winter I only need a light jacket or none at all my body is already warm. I use ice when my body hurts I have large ice packs I bought from my chiropractor.
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Mine is hot. My body temperature is always very very warm. My husband says sleeping with me is like having an oven in bed. I have full body RSD/CRPS. I use to love summer now with RSD I count the days until it is cold again. During the summer my skin is bright red without going in th sun (which I avoid). In the winter I only need a light jacket or none at all my body is already warm. I use ice when my body hurts I have large ice packs I bought from my chiropractor.
I just wanted to clarify and make sure I understand what you have said. Your RSD you think is the (HOT TYPE) and it efects you by causing hot areas that feel as if they are being burned by somthing HOT and you are treating your (HOT) areas with ICE PACKS. This gives you relief? This idea of hot an cold I believe is 2 different diseases or 2 variations and getting to understand the types and how each is treated will help all of you.

Sounds like for the first time I really got an answer about massage. My patients have me work very light and then slowly work a little harder. I believe my patients must be in earier stages than you are. They will only come when they are having a good day. Because of my understanding of their special condition I allow them to cancel the day of the massage if they are having a bad day.
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Hi Pete,

I have cold RSD in my leg and hot RSD in my arms. My leg is ALWAYS cold and my arms are ALWAYS really sweaty and warm. I can literally just be sat here and all of a sudden, my arms will just start to pool with water and sweat will drip off them - really gross and embarrassing!!

For me, neither hot or cold is really good for my RSD; I have to have just the right temperature which is REALLY hard to manage!! If it is too hot, I go into a massive pain flare and if it's too cold, I go into a pain flare too - theres just no winning it seems !! I'm going to Spain in just over a week to visit my grandfather so i'm hoping that the heat wont get to me there which i'm sure it will unfortunately.

I've never been able to tolerate massage on my RSD limbs. My PTs once tried massaging my leg to get rid of the swelling (lymph drainage) and I was crying in pain and in a pain flare for a few weeks after that. I get really bad swelling in my arms when i'm in a major flare too so my PTs once put me under general anaesthetic to try and massage the swelling out of my arm but it didn't help and I could still feel the affects after I woke up.

I'm glad your patients have been getting some positive results from your massages. I guess like everything with RSD, everyone is different and no two people will react the same. I want to thank you for taking the time to research RSD - not many other health care professionals would do the same unfortunately!

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I have hot rsd. I can't stand any heat. I'm so depressed in the summer due to the heat. I am always red and hot and looking like I'm having a massive heart attack, and that is sitting inside in a/c. I can't wait for winter where I will feel better. I have central a/c, a window unit in the bedroom that I keep on 65 degree when I'm in there, a celing fan on high, and a tower fan on high directed at me only. I don't use blankets or anything else on my bed. My poor hubby has all the blankets and still stays cold most of the time. I feel sorry for him, but I can't live with any heat.
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I have hot rsd. I can't stand any heat. I'm so depressed in the summer due to the heat. I am always red and hot and looking like I'm having a massive heart attack, and that is sitting inside in a/c. I can't wait for winter where I will feel better. I have central a/c, a window unit in the bedroom that I keep on 65 degree when I'm in there, a celing fan on high, and a tower fan on high directed at me only. I don't use blankets or anything else on my bed. My poor hubby has all the blankets and still stays cold most of the time. I feel sorry for him, but I can't live with any heat.
I can't take any heat either. I thought it was the meds, but that isn't the case. If it's more than 65 degrees OR there is any humidity, I freak out, feels like it's 190 degrees. My lady has slight anemia, and is freezing all the time. It can be 80 degrees in here and she is wearing a blanket, complaining to me about wanting the AC on. Lotsa fun.
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Hey Smoke
Excluding the cold and heat application effect on rsd/crps........I do know that warnings on heating pads,not to sleep with them on,Because after a certain time period they and cold packs[20 minutes cause soft tissue , and nerve damage],,
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Hi Pete

I had never heard anyone call it hot and cold RSD but I guess I have both. I can't stand the heat and humidity it causes me to feel so bad and when thunder storms are near, my hand and arm burns terrible. But when driving a AC vent blowing close to my hand sets me on fire. My first discription of how my hand burned to a Dr. was If you stick your hand into a cooler and fish around to find the last drink and your hand get so cold it burns then mutiply that by 10 was how bad the pain was. I was lucky my surgeon knew about RSD and recognized it. Also the WC case nurse new about rsd and and we saw 5 Dr. everone that wc sent me to said I had RSD so wc didn't have a problem treating it.

My hand temp. runs from 3 deg. hotter to 3 deg. colder than my other hand. I have a friend that has a thermal image camera that he uses for his busniess and he has helped me document my temp changes.

On Massages I believe that it is a big help but my therapist rarely massages my affected hand and arm. I believe that the help comes from stress relief on rare ocasions I will ask her to do a little on my hand but she has a way off working it that causes me the least amount of pain. I usually pay for it latter with a flair up but I have almost no movement in my fingers so sometimes I feel that it has to be done. Woody
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I have both cold and hot RSD so I have trouble standing the summers and the winters. This summer has been good in that it hasn't been a hot one so that has helped me. If it had been hot, I would have been miserable. The winters are just as bad for me.

As far as massage, my Physical Therapist did massage on me, and like Allen, I hurt for a few days but then I saw such a difference. I have a husband and wife team that worked on me for a long time. I absolutely love them for what they did for me. It is different for everyone though and it does depend on the PTist. Some are jokes just like some Drs.

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