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Old 02-27-2014, 12:16 PM #71
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I feel in my mind I should be happy they say they have found something. Instead, I'm shattered, it's 6.55pm and I'm getting into bed already. I cooked an early dinner, basic meat and 4 veg, couldn't face anything more energetic. Did the animals and garden watering. Got the sewing machine out to make a birthday gift for my sister, money to tight to buy anything but I have materials here and if I can get the energy right I can create a nice gift I hope. Just so shattered, still reeling from my vitriolic sisters in law comments and keep telling myself to put it behind me. I'd rather give them a piece of my mind but I will not lower myself to their level. I'm turning the other cheek and being strong, if my grandma could do it, so can I. Nasty vitriolic people are not welcome in my life anymore. Be gone you horrid things, I'm singing my song I get knocked down but I get up again.... Sorry felling down and shattered, know you NT'rs understand, we are all in a tough place right now. Pulling on my big girl soldier pants right now and putting my thoughts in order. Love to you all

In spite of not being in a "good place"; you really accomplished quite a bit. Being down really doesn't help the energy level either. Bed must have seemed a place to retreat.

I know it's easier said; but if possible, you need to cosider the source (your sister-in-law) and realize she is the one to be pitied.

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I feel in my mind I should be happy they say they have found something. Instead, I'm shattered, it's 6.55pm and I'm getting into bed already. I cooked an early dinner, basic meat and 4 veg, couldn't face anything more energetic. Did the animals and garden watering. Got the sewing machine out to make a birthday gift for my sister, money to tight to buy anything but I have materials here and if I can get the energy right I can create a nice gift I hope. Just so shattered, still reeling from my vitriolic sisters in law comments and keep telling myself to put it behind me. I'd rather give them a piece of my mind but I will not lower myself to their level. I'm turning the other cheek and being strong, if my grandma could do it, so can I. Nasty vitriolic people are not welcome in my life anymore. Be gone you horrid things, I'm singing my song I get knocked down but I get up again.... Sorry felling down and shattered, know you NT'rs understand, we are all in a tough place right now. Pulling on my big girl soldier pants right now and putting my thoughts in order. Love to you all
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when I am shattered ...I retreat to my garden....cuddle my pets...and also sew....things to me like that are meditative...my mind slows...I find my center...innately you nurtured yourself...good job!!

Do hand make that gift for your sister....your creation will be so treasured...trust me on that...

To help myself when I had evil thoughts about my family who abandoned me......soon as they entered my head I caught the thought and said my favorite prayer...then after about a week of plenty of praying ...I could say a short prayer and I love you...(because that did not change) and now it does not hurt near as bad. I feel compassion for them although I will never be with any of them without a therapist between us.
I am so sorry you have been hurt on that level...it is deep pain just not needed to be piled on us..... go easy on yourself.

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Thank you all for your understanding, I know sadly that far to many of us have had to stand up for ourselves and our dignity. It hurts me that I can and will put this behind me! but, I feel for my poor husband, for it is his sisters not mine who are causing the upset and it has hurt him deeply that his one sister in particular could be so cruel, low and undignified.

She is a vicious woman with nothing better to do. I'm glad I don't have to see her any time soon. My husbands younger brother and his wife endured the same treatment from them a few years back. Now I know what I know and I should have known better than to let her in and spread her poison into our lives.

I can pray for her and this I will do.
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Pam,

When I mentioned your sister-in-law was to be pitied; I almost added and needs prayers. I was glad to see you are going to pray for her.

You have shown yourself to be very compassionate. I think this will make your husband feel better knowing you are not allowing her to hurt you, but rather are aware she is in need of prayers.



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You have shown yourself to be very compassionate. I think this will make your husband feel better knowing you are not allowing her to hurt you, but rather are aware she is in need of prayers. Gerry
He is hurting in a way I have never seen before. We have faced years of illness and I have always tackled it head on. Actively participating in events to raise money for charity, doing bike rides, running, raffle tickets etc. His sisters comments were mean and she added in for extra effect his mother didn't like me. I can hold my head high and say I loved your mum, I know her last words were I worry for your sisters, she knew what I knew, poisonous souls fester and rot and nothing good comes from them. I guess it's why he won't talk of it. Yes, my prayers are for him now. I've said them for her. He is my rock, my life and my essence for being, I am grateful to have him in my life.

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I am glad you were able to put all of this in writing to us on NT. It is out..out..out.. of your system. Don't even dwell on these hurtful, pitiful women any longer. Your husband is a "gem". Letting him know you realize he is nothing like them, and that you are proud to be his wife is most likely all he needs to hear from you.

Keeping both you and your husband in prayers. Enjoy one another.


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Hi everyone, I had my NEVRO senza trial in August 2013, and it was brilliant. I've two leads, one covers c2 thru to t3, the other is in my lumbar. Post trial was initially terrible, however, after multiple reprogrammings, we hit gold...for a while. I managed to come off oramorph, and was reducing my cocodamol, then suddenly everything started to hurt. Every day, I would have pain free times, and then like turning a switch, my arm, spine and legs would start hurting. I can only equate it to an epidural wearing off during full blown labour. It really started to mess with my head, it would make me scream out loud and then I'd cry. I've never been the 'pain person', I was confident and self assured, merrily going for surgery after surgery (8 in total in the past 14 years).
Now, the pain is almost constant, and the device is causing pain. Everyone I know who has had the implant (I went on the INPUT course at Guys and St. Thomas' in London), and at this present time, we are all in such pain. Could it he the weather? It has been cold and wet for months now, and that is the only common denominator .
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, but I just need to find out whether anyone else has experienced this? We had a 9 month reunion, and all of us are more depressed than we were pre implant. I had my implant privately, but 3 months after the implant all insurance relating to my spine has been removed. Now I'm at the mercy of the NHS and I've got to wait until 9th April before I can be reprogrammed.
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Hi everyone, I had my NEVRO senza trial in August 2013, and it was brilliant. I've two leads, one covers c2 thru to t3, the other is in my lumbar. Post trial was initially terrible, however, after multiple reprogrammings, we hit gold...for a while. I managed to come off oramorph, and was reducing my cocodamol, then suddenly everything started to hurt. Every day, I would have pain free times, and then like turning a switch, my arm, spine and legs would start hurting. I can only equate it to an epidural wearing off during full blown labour. It really started to mess with my head, it would make me scream out loud and then I'd cry. I've never been the 'pain person', I was confident and self assured, merrily going for surgery after surgery (8 in total in the past 14 years).
Now, the pain is almost constant, and the device is causing pain. Everyone I know who has had the implant (I went on the INPUT course at Guys and St. Thomas' in London), and at this present time, we are all in such pain. Could it he the weather? It has been cold and wet for months now, and that is the only common denominator .
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, but I just need to find out whether anyone else has experienced this? We had a 9 month reunion, and all of us are more depressed than we were pre implant. I had my implant privately, but 3 months after the implant all insurance relating to my spine has been removed. Now I'm at the mercy of the NHS and I've got to wait until 9th April before I can be reprogrammed.
Hi, your description of yourself mirrors that of me and Chreslry we both have Nevro and lived active enjoyable lives before our never faraway pain companion overtook our ability to control it. Depression came along and it seems the two decided to become faithful companions! For me, having the implant I so hoped I could, and would, become less needing of the medication oxy. It hasn't happened, in fact now I am supposed to take more than before but every day where possible I take only the old dose and I know that is bringing me down because pain, constant pain is depressing. When you can't do the things you used to do, that just hurts emotionally.
I guess the only thing I can say is the SCS is only supposed to provide up to 60% pain relief! my rep and PM both said it won't take me off meds, and it won't fix what the actual pain problem is, it's only another method to try and tell the brain you are not hurting. Pain is sneaky I think, I think, IMO the pain beast has learned to move to somewhere else nearby to let my brain know it's not gone away, it's still there and that something is wrong, there is something there that still needs fixing but surgical intervention hasn't advanced enough to know what it is or how to do it. And that just sucks, I've still got private health but come August our income will be less and I'm not sure how long after that we will be able to afford the insurance premiums we currently pay to give us both top cover. So I can understand your concern with the NHS. When I was in London and before I got private health I was at the mercy of NHS and, looking back, tbh it was a real hospital merry go round so I can understand your concern. Do try not to let it bring you down, on here you will find many of us who face the same uphill battle as you, we have banded together from across the world. You will meet many from the USA who have different SCS units, but, similar stories. We are a pretty good bunch of people who totally empathise with you. If you groggle some of our stories you will see what I mean. I'm glad to meet another Nevro person and am interested to hear more of your experiences and stories.
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Yes they do indeed need to be more upfront, I'm so sorry you have to go through all that you do Ger. You have to wonder sometimes what is gods plan for us who suffer with this often unbearable pain. Are we the guinea pigs for future life and the trials we suffer are paving the way for better health for them. You have gone through so very much.

To my mothers horror, but more recently acceptance, I've said that if it comes to chemo I will not be participating, the pain I live with now will not be cured, I awake from my bed every day often thinking what time will it be when I can get back in. I will not go to bed during the day, an ingrained habit left over from childhood. My waking moments long for the moment my evening drugs kick in and knock me out, for however brief that often is. The peace that comes with being knocked out beckons me throughout the day. Sadly, my pain wakes me, or as I more recently learned, I'm still crying in my sleep. Anyway, I won't be taking chemo so that I can continue to live this pain filled life. I know that sounds selfish and I don't mean to denigrate anyone else who undertakes chemo, for most, it is a cure to live a pain free and wonderful life. It's just not for me.

Hugs to you Gerry, this life that has chosen us obviously didn't pick us at random, I read these posts and I can see, really see there are many of us on here who are battlers and survivors. It must be gods plan, I hope so, and I hope when we face our final moments all will be revealed.
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So, the long awaited for appointment with my PM arrived yesterday, I say long because his secretary seemingly was unaware he had treated me in hospital in January as I was admitted under my treating NS, who spoke directly with my PM on the phone and my PM did the nerve block at one of the hospitals he practices at. The hospital will have billed medibank direct on his behalf and possibly only his accounts team were aware. Still, I'm sure he has a diary that she manages?

I followed his directions to the letter on discharge and as requested sent an email explaining any noted changes etc, the email went to his secretary (as I expected it would) no response, I phoned, the secretary briskly says he has actioned the medication authority request in the last paragraph. I get the feeling she is about to hang up. Great, but what about my pain that has increased and is increasing by the day. She says "oh he only reads 2 paragraphs at the most" I reply, it was only 2 paragraphs with the first paragraph explaining my pain.. Oh, I will have to find it and highlight the first paragraph then for him to read and he can call you back.

2 hours later she calls and says he can't do anything over the phone and we have a cancellation appt on Monday. Did I mention she's faffing around and making that Hmph sound, you know the one that people make when they don't really believe you...

Off we go to the appt along with the X-rays, sure enough there is the email and paragraph highlighted. He looks at me, then at my husband and says "hmm how do you feel, you don't look to well". "Have you had a fever?" I'm thinking, is he talking about me or my husband. "Let's have you up on the bed and have a look at you". Oh, it must be me then.

So, up on the bed, quiet for a moment and he touches a spot on my lower back, I nearly hit the roof, crickey that hurt. Touches somewhere else, somewhere else and somewhere else, yes there is pain in those places, I've marked them on the body chart in red. Silence, he goes back to the spot, touches it again, I come back down from the roof a moment later. He says "that tender spot is where the pedicel screw is" I think you have an infection.

Now I've spent most of the weekend in bed knocked out with meds. I took my full dose of painkillers on Saturday, slept all afternoon, got up at 7pm so I could take hubby to the pub and he could enjoy the game, have a drink and get back home safe n sound. We get home safely and I'm straight back to bed, up at 1pm Sunday and back in bed by 5pm Sunday. I've slept the whole time, oblivious to what's going on around me, never ever done that before. (Oh, his team won, happy days, awesome game, even I enjoyed the first twenty minutes, then I went and had a rest in the car and back in to get him when the game finished).

So back to my PM, he says we will do another block the next level up, he calls my rep there and then and asks her to call him back about the paddle, then he says he will also speak with my NS about doing the paddle as he can do the block and NS can do the paddle at the same time.

We go out to the secretary for her to schedule the procedure, I'm confused as I don't know what procedure is happening and I'm not feeling particularly well. The secretary flicks around the Screen and cheerfully says, ok booked you in for March 19th and follow up Dr appt June 6th.....

Great, I'll just put my pain on hold for 6 weeks, let's remember the 2nd nerve block was supposed to have been done one week after he did the first one on January 21. Do I sound disillusioned? I am, I'm feeling like a person who is about to once again enter the wonderful world of merry go round the hospital Pam once again not being believed.

I say to the secretary, so what procedure is he doing, she has the paper in her hand. I get the humph again and she whisks away, comes back and says the nerve block. So we have been stood at the counter now for ten minutes since we left the PM office. By chance (thank heaven) he comes out, puts his hand on my shoulder and says I will call you with the results of the blood test and we will get this procedure done quickly so we can get you feeling better, he looks at the secretary and says when are we doing it. She replies march 19, I think time stopped, he looked at her, silence fell, other patients waiting all look to the desk. He says slowly, when? She fans herself and says, ah I will uhm! I uhm.

He interrupts and says we will get you in on the other list, I have two lists, we will call you with an appointment. It won't be that far away.

So, I'm home, had another nights sleep courtesy of the hated knock out pill and I will go have the blood test shortly, I'm feeling really low and despondent. Feel queasy still which I've felt all weekend and had put down to just general malaise, maybe I do have an infection?

I just want my life back, I want to be able to go out, talk to people, meet people and have a laugh without having to go lie down in my car. My poor husband, how much more can he endure. I'm sure another round of hospital merry go round Pam not being believed will be the final straw.
you dear beautiful lady
your pain
understood
as you spoke of the dr.
hitting your sweet spot
let alone do it again
and not kick him in the nuts
i understand
and pray for a miracle
third orthosurgeon
"i will not do any surgery
as to many things are going on
it wouldn't help"
again my friend
we are chosen and are special
my love of our Father
Brother
and Mother Mary
our Angels
when i am strong spiritually
everything else means not as important
and the love of our children
my granddaughter
and someone i miss terribly
just terribly
my dog Oliver
my eldest has him
i hurt so badly missing him
Gods creation
blessed are we in that strange
but understood love for one another here
UNCONDITIONALLY
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shirt drenched with the smell of Love

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