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Old 03-28-2010, 09:51 PM #1
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Help Staying in hotel with my ESA

It was suggested I post my question here so I am.

Hi, I'm new here. Next summer I will be going to a national Taekwondo comp and I may need to take my ESA kid for the trip to go smoothly. I went last summer w/o him and it did not go well....bad enough for me to think twice about going again. I panic in new places and he keeps me calm by actively interrupting my panic attacks. He is not a Service dog as I do not have these issues at home only when I am alone in a strange place. I know he can fly with me but what happens once I get where I'm going? Is there any info out there about staying in hotels with an Emotional support dog? Or them going places when visiting another city? He's 50#, has his CGC, and I have trained him myself. (I have over 10 years experience in training and have consulted with other trainers as well.) At home he is not a service dog, but when I am in a strange environment I need him with me to function. Any thoughts or suggestions? My other issue is he could be called a "pitbull" type dog.

Thanks in advance for any help. I figured if I started researching now I'd be set when I start making plans next spring.
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Wow, you know Taekwondo? That's very cool!

I wish I had the answers to your questions, but I just dropped by to say "Welcome to NeuroTalk!" This is a great message board with lots of knowledgable and caring folks.

Good luck with your doggie. You didn't mention his name. Or do you just call him Pittie?
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Default Well Hello PittieESA !

I'm glad you found the forum regarding support dogs! As I read down the list of threads I see there is a ton of info that describes what you are asking!
I encourage you to read some of those posts and you'll get some good ideas on how you can go about handling your situation with legal rights, etc.

I hope it works out for you to take your dog with you! I'm sure there will be certain legal 'red tape' you'll have to clear with whomever would oversee your situation, but I bet it IS possible. It's just a matter of finding the right people to inquire with and get the 'back up' you need!
Hopefully you'll get responses to your thread!

Good Luck and Best Wishes on your Travels!
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I think you'll have to check with each State you go through with regards to pitbull breeds. (Or even counties.... Miami Dade County in SE FL has banned pitbulls.) Then have the required (if any) apparatus (muzzle?) or whatever.

You have to clear it specially with the taekwando people as well. They may need pr want to seek the "permission" of each person in the same class as you, whether they feel safe with a pitbull around.

Be sure to carry all the papers necessary, and more! Training records, certifications or courses (esp like the Good Citizen course) will help in case you have a complaint. The doctor's letters, and a copy of the law etc (I'd take several so you can leave them with a person, so they can run interference for you.

Hope you get to go and have fun!
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Handlers of ESAs do not have any rights other than flying and in no pet housing. That does not apply to hotels. You will need to get a pet friendly hotel and all pet rules apply to them. I would also check about BSL. I have a service dog (they are exempt from BSL) but wouldn't take a pittie SD into a BSL area because many local idiots don't realize that fed law trumps local laws.
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Lightbulb some jumbled (but hopefully helpful) thoughts

Hi there ... not yet summer, so I thought I'd chime in. First of all, look online for a special TYPE of muzzle. This is one that is an inch wide arrangements of strong but thin black nylon straps that fasten with long strips of velcro. There are two circular bands made when put on - one fastens around the neck, the other around the muzzle. They are connected by a very securely stitched attachment strap that runs under the muzzle to the throat strap. Have this muzzle on ANYTIME you are outside the room.

It is often used by dog groomers when dealing with a dog that they feel (or know) might snap. They come in various sizes. The dog can still drink, even eat, with enough ease to the strap - they just can't open their mouth to bite. A dog, like an alligator, has tremendous GRIP power, but the mouth can be kept closed relatively easily.

First of all, while you can screen motels via 1-800 numbers, you may be able to get concessions by calling direct, after 8 or later at night, to talk to the night manager.

Measure your dog at shoulder height. Don't mention his possible pit heritage. (by the way, if he has shown dog aggression and wants to eat small dogs, then consider the safety of other guests and be sure to give them lots of berth and slip back inside til they are thru. You are most likely to be complained about by other guests rather than hotel employees)

If it is a possibility, you would need to know how far you would have to walk to reach a grassy area not in front of the motel/hotel (and ask if there would be an available dumpster to deposit any doggy-doo bags). Say you would want a room next to the stairwell so you would not be using the elevator. Say you would not be taking him thru the lobby during check in or check out times. Tell him how he would not be left alone in the room (well, except when you slip downstairs for the breakfast bar).

Strongly consider buying a large dog crate for him to set up in the room. It looks and sounds good to tell them the dog will have a secure crate. If you ever DO have to leave him in the room during the hours of maid service, he MUST be crated. But be aware that you can arrange with house-keeping (call them, not just the front desk) to skip your room that day - tho you will have to get any needed fresh towels later.

There are still some "mom & pop" hotels, often cheaper, often maintained by family. AND they don't have a corporate office telling them the rules. You can talk to them - maybe offer them a bit extra a night. Many of these have doors that open straight to the parking lot so you can drive your dog to a nearby grassy area for the two of you to stretch your legs if necessary. Oh yes, since he will seldom or never have a doggy park or back yard and you can't jog, invest in a 12-15 foot lead (a tie-out) so he can do as mine does, lag behind, then run ahead - and then run around me out in empty lots.

Find out about the training facility and whether they can accommodate him. If they can't/won't have him during the day, ask if they can help you find a doggy day-care facility or someone with a secure backyard. Of course, you WOULD have to bring grounding "home items" to the yard situation (toys, bed/blankie) and spend time relaxing and low-energy playing with him there - not high energy and excitement-heightening. Oh, and consider coming a day early for a yard situation. If he is an escape artist or panics when you leave, forget this one.

Lots of jumbled thoughts. Me? I snuck my dog in as I had no extra money to pay the pet premium... and then just kept a very low profile til the cab arrived early morning to take us to the airport. I was lucky as the hotel parking lot backed up on a large business park with lots of grass and it was a nice walkabout.

Keep us posted, please, on how your plans for the summer go. If everything else falls thru, consider taking your dog's pillow or blankie to sleep with and stash in a gym bag to take to your sessions. When stressed, sit down with it, close eyes, hug tightly, against your cheek, inhale deeply and concentrate on focused breathing while holding his spirit and presence firmly in mind. Kinda like meditation.

Love to a fellow pit lover ...
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