or are they?

i don't think i should answer this. i smell a conspriracy brewing....

Time will tell Clouds. Years ago, the absurdities were vague and it was easy to question whether there was a conspiracy going on. Now, it takes more faith to believe that there is not, with what we see played out before our eyes.

Here is perhaps the most important question to ask yourself when you're listening/researching both sides (oh wait most conspiracy theory nuts aren't doing that )...

WHOM can you believe?

i dont believe bush /cheney who will take away a sick persons medical pot, who will polute lands like kosovo and iraq with depleted uranium munitions -clinton too ,and let soldiers die without knowledge or treatment

bush who will imprison people for sending an anonymous email up to 2 years who will take kids from parents and break up families

and people for the death penalty are stupid

i dont like the "democrats" either hardly

who you calling a nut?

I like to read between the lines of all sides of the arguement.

Now bush..... he's out of touch with reality. Most blue bloods are.

i think we are past all of that, should forget about the differences and polarizing, get over it - everyone is making mistakes, even forgive [yeah right] and come together to solve this war. All the rest is just dirty politics, lies, and gang mentality.We all need to get behind our government and win this war. Everything else is just junior high.

It's not all Bush's fault....hatred and vengeance for this man is muddling logic. Bush haters' ears don't hear and their eyes don't see anything else because they don't want to.

Win the war and hash the rest out later. Abandoning Iraq now is absurdl


Paula

Oh I agree abandoning Iraq is absurd, but they need to come up with an exit plan, because we will never resolve the tribal conflicts there with american democracy. That would be like asking the Mormons, Catholics, Jews, Charismatics and Protestant churches, throw witchcraft and voodo in there also... to all worship under the same roof with 1 appointed leader. Never going to happen.

We are interfering in other countries business, where we don't belong. I think clouds and others question the lies for the war, because if Bush were left to his own devices, Iran and Syria would be next.

People being vocal and standing up to his impulse actions is a good thing. He reminds me of a kid with the keys to a candy store. "Oh boy what can I eat next!". I firmly believe if he had the blank check that he so desires, he would bring on WW3. Frankly I question his sanity in addition to his intelligence. I'm not a bush basher. He just happens to be in the hotseat and has done alot of damage while in office.

Some people believe Bush should have carte blanche (not saying you) because of 9/11. Bush mentions Iran is the boogeyman and many pseudo patriots yell hoorah killem all.

Mentality like that scares the hell out of me.

i say get out of iraq now-who cares about iraq

they can sovle thier own problems

It's very hard to sort it all out. In the end, no one is informed for sure about anything. I'm not a Bush fan, but just can not follow the logic of those who despise him. We live in a free country, not without problems like health care and poverty, but it's no comparison to the suppression in non-democratic countries.

Going into Iraq scared me to death, but why doesn't anyone discuss the threat of our enemies? Is it denial? Doesn't anyone see the potential danger of showing weakness right now by not trying to work with our own leaders? Shouldn't the good of the country take priority over feelings about Bush?

Do you consider us in a state of war?

Paula