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Sannah 05-05-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AfterMyNap (Post 273097)
our constitution is an ever-evolving, malleable set of guidelines

I didn't realize that it was malleable or ever-evolving?

AfterMyNap 05-05-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannah (Post 273133)
I didn't realize that it was malleable or ever-evolving?

Absolutely, it's how we are able to make amendments to the constitution.

mrsD 05-05-2008 01:13 PM

Oh...
 
I don't think the Constitution is "malleable" at all. In theory yes, but getting
an amendment to it requires high % of passing both houses, and 2/3 ratifying
by the states. (I think, either this or something close to it).

Remember, gals we failed equal rights-- we ain't equal YET!

Sannah 05-05-2008 02:05 PM

Yeah, how often are there amendments? There are only 27 of them. The last one was 16 years ago and the one before that was 37 years ago.

KathyM 05-05-2008 02:41 PM

Is this a thread to talk about complainers or a thread where we can complain? :D If the latter, I have a complaint about "illegal" Mexican immigration.

I think it's wrong to blame them for coming here because we boast too much about the opportunities and freedom in this country. I refuse to blame poor people for wanting to find work and food for their children. I blame those who hire them. If the jobs weren't here for them, people wouldn't be risking their lives to come here.

Let's just call it what it is.....slave labor. Why should SLAVES be arrested for doing the work we hire them to perform? :eek:

My sister in TX has a friend who is a veterinarian. There is a section in town where you can drive by and pick up Mexican laborers for the day - a large majority of them "illegal." She uses these people to do all her yard work.

If she can afford to own a second home in Costa Rica, she can afford to hire professional landscapers to care for her lawn in Texas. If she can't afford to maintain her lawn in TX, she shouldn't own a home in Costa Rica. She's not hiring these immigrants to give them the "American Dream" she's hiring them because she's too cheap to pay the standard price in this country. :rolleyes:

What bothers me most about making this a political issue is the way people act toward Mexicans and people of Hispanic descent. It has caused people to be resentful and suspicious of all of them. :(

AfterMyNap 05-05-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsd (Post 273168)
I don't think the Constitution is "malleable" at all. In theory yes, but getting
an amendment to it requires high % of passing both houses, and 2/3 ratifying
by the states. (I think, either this or something close to it).

Remember, gals we failed equal rights-- we ain't equal YET!

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Originally Posted by Sannah (Post 273195)
Yeah, how often are there amendments? There are only 27 of them. The last one was 16 years ago and the one before that was 37 years ago.

But, it IS amendable. When an issue rises to that certain extent, action can be taken and it's my opinion that immigration laws beyond the original state level are coming very close to requiring more consideration than ever before.

Take a look at the immigration act of 1990:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc-cgi/g...target=101-649

Despite the 9th and 10th amendments to the constitution, it shows that over time, the powers of the states have been inching closer and closer to relinquishing immigration to a level of federal sovereignty.

So, then look at the 14th amendment which was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves. By 1965, it began to be interpreted as the passage of inalienable rights to children born to illegal immigrants in the U.S.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am14.html

My feeling is that it may be time to revisit constitutional considerations for the enormous numbers of immigrants this nation is hosting. What do you think?

clouds z 05-05-2008 11:45 PM

we all know some get worker cards to legally work in usa =so what

we all know we are all "imigrants" except for the american indians

google "crime victims of illegal aliens"
most people are sick of it

i voted for romney because of this and he won the straw poll

the problem is some think they have two countries to live in and they do, but not us and if theyre crimnals they have the politcal thing that is known as "mexico" to go back to and they dont extradite

sure maybe most the people there may be ok or as good as usa people

clouds z 05-05-2008 11:53 PM

so i wonder if lupe complains in spanish too

lol

And, happily, there are indeed a growing number of furious Hispanics who devote hours on end to fighting illegal immigration. Among them are

Lupe Moreno, Chair, Orange County Republican National Hispanic Assembly and her sister Angie Morfin, Chair, Monterey County Republican Hispanic Assembly.

http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/patriotic_hispanics.htm

TheSleeper 05-06-2008 04:45 AM

Hmmm? Congress`es approval rating? The President`s approval rating? The economy? There is a lot to gripe about? People should be able to discuss the problems with out malice or anger.

Immigration? jobs are leaving this country at record rates, the USA lets more legal immigrants into this country than the rest of the world combined. Exactly what purpose does this serve other than to drive down wages for those already here? Then factor in the illegal immigration.

A fuel crisis, energy in general, gasoline, heating bills, electricity. Create more of a demand thru immigration? Logic dictates a stop sign. Let more people on the boat to row when it is sinking?:confused:

clouds z 05-06-2008 10:07 AM

some illegals are given home loans more freely are given instate tuition's for college some get 2 welfare checks but i doubt that

pile into public housing and break rules and Americans are held to the rules but they are not

in Scotland a muslim was let off for speeding because he driving between 2 wives


that is why liberals are stupid they give special rights

some think its just dandy

http://media.nationalreview.com/post...ZlOWI1ZDY5YjA=


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