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Old 06-17-2008, 11:44 AM #11
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sickle cell= this neighbor is a different race than you? Is your complex mixed? Diverse? Do you know if she is alone when screaming? Do you know for a fact that she is alone? Perhaps not?

If she is in the minority I would be VERY CAREFUL what
you do. I would NOT retaliate in kind with another noise maker.

But I would log the times/dates that the screams happen.

And I would think about this for a while, before acting further.
Taping the screams would help if you make a complaint.

If after a week or so, the screaming continues, I'd ask her if she needs "help" with something.

One never really knows what others are capable of. So I hope this is not a manipulative thing she is doing, to create a fuss, and then a law suit, etc. Some people live off law suits!
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YES, I do know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Without going into too many details here in the thread. I have dealt with "People" like that before, MANY times but they don't usually stay very long. This kind of thing is only a reflection of their Personality/character. Their Motives are Always in question. I am and will be careful and protect myself IF I have to.

It's funny how we all think that "Social" Interaction is alright until it is TOO up close and personal AND destructive. The "Balance" here shifts from time to time and when it is more of One than the other then things DO get dicey and sketchy and the Police are here WAY too much.

It HAS already been WELL over a week that this has been going on, more like a couple months.
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I wonder if I can share a story as well, but I do NOT want anyone else to FEEL bad...

I am with Chemar and KM...

first of all, I have Tourette Syndrome. I have very loud, BARKS....when I was in college...I had to move a lot cause I can only afford places with thin walls (apts, trailers)

dorms were outta the question. I got kicked out my first week cause I kept the whole building up...literally...

And I DON'T blame anyone else cause I KNOW that they would need to sleep....I wondered if I could've kept my tics in check. First time living out of my parents' house and stuff...

well, it made everything worse. I barked every two minutes...Kept everyone up...

I was so embarassed that when they'd ask me to leave, I left without even challenging anyone...

then I becamse a gypsy, living from friend to friend, lease to lease...everyone was almost always too happy to see me leave until I found a cheap house that is kind of secluded.

My roommates didn't care because I was so afraid to live alone that I'd offer to pay for their rent, food, and utility bills...anyways, didn't wanted to get into a sad story here and I DON'T want to tell anyone to NOT call 911...not my place...

And my wife takes care of a lot of people with sickled cell disease. It is very painful and they get cold and I remember she telling me a few of her patients would moan or yell when she was taking care of them. I'll have to ask her about that.

I think the girl might be defensive for a few reasons:

1) she may have been asked to move a few times already and is weary
2) she doesn't know how to explain her pain perhaps maybe she has explained it before and still was asked to move and may be running out of options
3) she may be fearful that once she explains why she does it, people would look at her funny even though they already are...

4) she could just be a total heartless ******

once again, I don't want to condemn anyone for being annoyed and wanting to get her back. I can understand that myself even with my own disability...

but I would ask that if you have enough patience, to maybe talk to her about it, tell her that you post at a neuro forum and that you understand about disorders and such...maybe she'll open up to you...

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It may be due to the medication she is taking for the Sickle Cell, which can cause mental disturbances and illness. Maybe she is screaming from the pain but wants to stay in her own bedroom instead of a hospital ward. My nephew suffers from Sickle Cell, and it's very painful.

I have pain due to neuropathy. When those shocks come, there's no way I can hold in a scream when it feels like I have firecrackers exploding in my arms/legs. I try to stay on guard and braced for the "attacks," but sometimes they catch me off-guard. My neighbors are understanding, and so far have not formed a lynch mob to remove me from the community.

Have you ever spoken to her as a neighbor (i.e., non-confrontational) and asked why she screams so loud? Have you or any of your neighbors rushed to her side in an attempt to calm her fear/pain that is causing her to scream?

My neighbor cares for her husband at home. He was a previously healthy man who suffered a massive heart attack at the age of 46 five years ago and remains in a coma completely unresponsive. Her now 7-year-old daughter has become a handful because she misses her daddy. She screams a lot too, but I wouldn't have the heart to call the police on my neighbor.

My other neighbor has a Pomeranian we've all named "Sir Barks-A-Lot" because he barks non-stop whenever he's outside. She has cerebral palsy and lives alone. We all know how much she loves that dog, so we put up with the constant barking. We also put up with hearing her beg her dog to come back into the house. I tried to help her once during a tornado warning, but I only made the situation worse. Then again, maybe I didn't make it worse. After I walked away, little Sir Barks-A-Lot trotted happily into the home after "defending" his turf.

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Yes, I have and within 2 hours she did it again. it was NOT in a confrontational way either. We we just talking out front, casually. I asked her what all the Death Screams were about, she just said, O.K., I'll stop.

I have learned NOT to get too involved with "Some" neighbors. It ALWAYS ends badly. I did have to stop opening my door to her. She Borrows things then won't give them back. AND a painting I had hanging in the hall disappeared last week. I went out and wrote "Thief" on the wall where it was in magic marker. So if it was her or anyone who goes to visit her they will be reminded. That painting was there for over 3 years. Only people who come up here, top floor, are my visitors and hers. I didn't HAVE any visitors during that time but SHE had MANY so she KNOWS the person who took it or it was her.

She won't be here very long, I can tell things are going downhill quickly.
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wm, I understand about Touretts. This isn't like that. I have heard those kinds of yells. This is different, more deliberate and NOT regular. I do think she does it on purpose but I could be wrong. IF I see her again and it is still happpening I will ask her WHY she does this.

I failed to mention this before but when she first moved in, the first few weeks, she was doing something else. I will explain.

She was dressed up like she was going out to a club or to church, I mean really dressed up very nicely, long skirt, etc. BUT, then she was out on our street, walking up and down for hours, stopping cars and talking to people. I mean aggressively stopping cars. The next day a parade of men were in and out of her apt. One or two at a time and this went on ALL day. She did this 3 or 4 times different days. NOW, WHAT would YOU think of this behaviour??
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wm, I understand about Touretts. This isn't like that. I have heard those kinds of yells. This is different, more deliberate and NOT regular. I do think she does it on purpose but I could be wrong. IF I see her again and it is still happpening I will ask her WHY she does this.

I failed to mention this before but when she first moved in, the first few weeks, she was doing something else. I will explain.

She was dressed up like she was going out to a club or to church, I mean really dressed up very nicely, long skirt, etc. BUT, then she was out on our street, walking up and down for hours, stopping cars and talking to people. I mean aggressively stopping cars. The next day a parade of men were in and out of her apt. One or two at a time and this went on ALL day. She did this 3 or 4 times different days. NOW, WHAT would YOU think of this behaviour??


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when my son had a screaming tic it was an ear piercing shrill scream not a yell or a yelp...it lasted about a month then never returned but it was probably one of the tuffest tics for him, us and our neighbors to endure. He was horribly embarrassed by it and, as with all TS tics, the more he tried to suppress it the worse it got
and this was during the time when he was on medications for TS............................

sorry but TS vocal tics can be very varied and not all manifest the same, so I dont see how you can say "this isnt like that"...how would you possibly know whether she has TS if you havent asked?

there are other conditions that may also be causing this too

just because she may have some odd or questionable behaviors, doesnt mean she can help the screaming.

If she does in fact have TS then she is protected by the Americans with Disabilities act and should not be punished for something she cannot help
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wm, I understand about Touretts. This isn't like that. I have heard those kinds of yells. This is different, more deliberate and NOT regular. I do think she does it on purpose but I could be wrong. IF I see her again and it is still happpening I will ask her WHY she does this.

I failed to mention this before but when she first moved in, the first few weeks, she was doing something else. I will explain.

She was dressed up like she was going out to a club or to church, I mean really dressed up very nicely, long skirt, etc. BUT, then she was out on our street, walking up and down for hours, stopping cars and talking to people. I mean aggressively stopping cars. The next day a parade of men were in and out of her apt. One or two at a time and this went on ALL day. She did this 3 or 4 times different days. NOW, WHAT would YOU think of this behaviour??
While I agree with the others who feel you should find out why she does this stuff, I also think that her note about "snitching" on her door, now combined with this new tale, says that she is aware of her odd behavior.

As a grown person, she is still responsible to live according to community standards. If she is unwell or mentally challenged, she should seek a community where her behavior will not disrupt the peaceful existence of other residents. It's basic, common courtesy.
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If this is medical, shouldn't there be a medicine to keep her from screaming? Why should everybody else have to put up with it? I wouldn't want to do that to others around me... What a sticky situation.

It sounds to me more like psychosis or something by your description of her overall behavior. I think I'd also call 911 whenever it happens. At least then she'll eventually get the help she needs if it's a medical problem (hopefully, anyway.)
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If this is medical, shouldn't there be a medicine to keep her from screaming?
as mentioned in my last post and also mentioned by others...some meds can trigger this!!!! and sometimes they can help
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