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Old 10-15-2008, 10:34 PM #1
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and I am the winner at tonight's debate...

(not being political...just thought it was so funny... )
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but seriously, and this is strictly a financial observation...

does anyone find it odd that we can dish out 700 billion dollars to help the financials (which I can understand why: we're the world leader in economy. We have to create the credits so the rest of the world will follow. If we crash, world economy crash...OK, that's fine...not perfect, I don't like it, but I understand it)

WHAT I find ODD, is the fact that we can give out 700 billion here and 110 billion to AIG but we cannot offer health care to EVERY SINGLE person in this country...

my father couldn't get insurance nor medicaid...I went to the DSS office more than 30 times to fight to get his medicaid. He paid taxes...

one of their excuses to me was that the budget was limited and that they can only have so many applicants and blah blah blah...

I worked three jobs and my mother worked two and we took care of him...

one month after he passed away, I got a letter in the mail saying he was approved for medicaid...this was after I've sent them his death certificate and told them to cancel all the paperwork...

THAT, baffles me....
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If I could come up with a good answer for that, I'd win a prize..My daughter's insurance info finally went thru and was in the mail today. She passed away a week ago. I'm seeing a sickening trend...
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(((((PE)))))

I felt like a punch in the face when it happened...I was so angry...I went to the office and it was all I could do to NOT scream and yell at them...

I glanced around that office and saw a lot of angry people sitting and waiting...

and while I am sure there are a lot of caring people working on the "other side"

it bothered me...and you know what she told me when I told her about this?

She told me, "oh, well, the paperwork was already in progress, and there was nothing we could do."

I told her that I've got letters after letters that they've sent us that use more postage. Every week, we'd get a letter from them telling us why my dad was not approved.

I told her the amount of postage that they could've saved...I think about the thousands that they mail these useless letters out to...and that those money could be used to help others...it sickens me...

no, the system isn't perfect, there will be NO perfect systems...BUT, it COULD be better....

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Amen to that..My mom has said many times that with all the money they waste on mailing useless paperwork, she could have what little raise they get in Social Security without the increase in what they take out for insurance..She usually ends up making less since the hike in insurance premiums is higher than the piddling amount they raise SS..
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DH and I pay nearly $900 a month for our insurance, not including our deductibles and expenses. Something has to be done. There are many that can't afford to pay what we pay so they go without. I hope that the new president will make it a priority to make insurance affordable. By the way, a tax credit will not do it for me or most others.
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If I could come up with a good answer for that, I'd win a prize..My daughter's insurance info finally went thru and was in the mail today. She passed away a week ago. I'm seeing a sickening trend...
I am so sorry for your loss
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"Joe the Plumber"..........twenty three times???.........Id rather put ice picks
thru my brain than hear "Joe the Plumber" again.
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I was at the hospital last night so I only heard about this this morning. My husband made the comment that if Joe the plumber would be better off under McCain's tax deal, he must make 250K or better, and if that's the case, no wonder we can't afford to hire a plumber.

Who in Toledo makes 250K?
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"Joe the Plumber"..........twenty three times???.........Id rather put ice picks
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LOL ditto on that, soxy....

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I was at the hospital last night so I only heard about this this morning. My husband made the comment that if Joe the plumber would be better off under McCain's tax deal, he must make 250K or better, and if that's the case, no wonder we can't afford to hire a plumber.

Who in Toledo makes 250K?
you were in the hospital?? Hope you are doing better, brainy. ((((HUGS))))

I don't know about the plumbers in your area but the plumbers here make a killing.

Almost all of them have a second or third business.

the average starting charge in our area is $85/hr and some of them even start at $125.00

that's even for them to just come out and look at what's wrong...

if they have to come for an emergency then it could get really outrageous.

a couple of them own billards and a lot of real estate...

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