[MelodyL]

Alan just got some literature from OxyLife. Alan is always going on the internet and researching alernative pain management stuff, and I guess he found this one.

They included a free sample of PHENOCANE.

Here's a link to their website.
I am reading the brochure and it mentions that this is not FDA approved. but all the literature is about pain management and anti-inflammation.

http://www.seacoastvitamins.com/prod...oducts_id=1808

I gather this is not applicable for neuropathy, but might be for some sort of arthritic pain???

Comments??

Melody

[mrsD]

yes, you can try that. It might even help your diabetes.
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...benefits-study



That product? Nope.

It has a glaring error in explaining what phenylalanine does in the body:

Phenocal site:

dl phenylalanine: Otherwise called DLPA. DLPA is a beneficial amino acid that is noted for helping the body maintain higher levels of serotonin. Serotonin is a hormone produced in the brain that promotes good feelings and has been proven to elevate mood, which then helps reduce feelings of pain.

reality:

Other biological roles

L-phenylalanine can also be converted into L-tyrosine, another one of the DNA-encoded amino acids. L-tyrosine in turn is converted into L-DOPA, which is further converted into dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and epinephrine (adrenaline). The latter three are known as the catecholamines.

Phenylalanine uses the same active transport channel as tryptophan to cross the blood-brain barrier, and, in large quantities, interferes with the production of serotonin.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylalanine
Anyone with high blood pressure should not take this supplement. Also, phenylalanine is 1/2 of the ingredients in aspartame (Nutrasweet).

Nattokinase thins the blood and may interfere with blood thinners. It is normally fairly expensive.

This mixture of supplements is pretty inexpensive so I suspect the actual amount of ingredients is low/capsule. Fitting therapeutic amounts of all of those in one item, is a trick..typically only a small amount of each is in each capsule. (a common supplement scam)

So get some curcumin...that's what I'd suggest.
Puritan's has some good extracts..I use their ginger all the time.

Curcumin is getting alot of attention now as an anti-inflammatory. You'd need at least 2 caps of the extract a day, maybe 3.

[Victoria]

This is what I found on it when looking on the web.

A combination of natural ingredients acts as an anti-inflammatory and inhibits the Cox-2 enzyme without the side effects caused by prescription drugs.

This extremely effective supplement stops pain and stiffness in as little as 24 hrs and, with continued use, will keep inflammation under control, giving you greater mobility and movement.

[MelodyL]

Now you all know why I love Mrs. D!!!!

I won't be taking this thing any time soon.

Glad I put it up on the boards.

Melody

[pabb]

mel, do try the curcumin,,,neat stuff.....check out pubmed....many,many articles

[MelodyL]

Originally Posted by pabb

mel, do try the curcumin,,,neat stuff.....check out pubmed....many,many articles

Just went to pubmed. Read some of the articles. Very interesting. I had heard about turmeric. Can't find it in my local stores. but I do have CUMIN in my home and I put it on my fish. Is this almost as good as Curcumin, (or does it have absolutely nothing to do with Curcumin?).

Thanks in case you know.

Melody

[mrsD]

Curcumin is in curry spice. So is cumin. But they come from different plants, and
are different chemically.

I use a Pondecherry curry in our soups, stews and even
chili. I make chili out of chicken and pork, more than I do with
beef.

I don't use as much as you'd do for curry, but used lightly to
moderately..taste it to your liking..I find it gives a nice body to
soups/stews and makes the house smell really nice. Hubby always comments on the aroma!

Curcumin needs oil to be absorbed so it is thought to work better from foods. But I just found a LEF article on adding piperine (Bioperine) to it to make it more absorbable.

This is the newest thread from PD on it. Those forum members use and post about it alot. So do a search there too.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...142#post413142
read this thread-- there is discussion on smaller doses vs. larger ones.

[bamamom52]

Hi, Melody. YES, I was recently told about Pheonocane by my brother-in-law. He personally knows two people that are taking it for arthiritis and they feel much better. My adult daughter has fibromyalgia. She recently took Cymbalta for about two months. It worked for the pain, but the side effects were horrible. She had to get off of it and was sad about it because it had helped the pain so much. So, after reading about Phenocane on the internet and reading other comments by people who are taking it, I ordered some for my daughter. She has been on it almost a week and is doing well. We believe it is working and it is so much better for her than a prescription drug. I also see a difference in her demeanor and attitude. It might be too soon to get excited about it, but since she has suffered with this and has tried other drugs (Lyrica for one) and they didn't work and had side effects, we are excited about the Phenocane. Some others on here are saying just take aspirin or tylenol, but my daughter has digestive problems and cannot take those. If I were you, I would order some Phenocane and give it a try. It is much much cheaper than Cymbalta or Lyrica! Good luck!