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I have MS (I'm in a chair, only one hand works, all that MS stuff( SSDI has been sending money every month for my kids, they turn 18 today but are still in High School so they'll be paid until graduation. But SSDI sent a letter, saying it is best they send kids checks direct and if I've saved any $$ in saved or investments (The College fund for them- the 529?) I should send monies to them!!! Money I have left over from any checks they sent me?? Left over? Think they need to send me money. Are they just idiots??

Hello Kicker;

I'm New here today and have read your response to SS Letter regarding Children turning 18 and still in school!

I had the Same Scenario, I Am Remarried with supportive Spouse who said he Felt turning over $$ to child even thou he was turning 18 was a Bad Idea! I wanted to give my son the Option of understanding it was my option to turn these $$ Over, and they where intended to be used to help in his Support since I was unable and I also wanted to have him understand this, that he was to use these $$ in support of his part of housing Bills. Well as with any kid even thou my spouse and I was setting aside our $$ for his HS Graduation the Gift of $$ Almost equal to what was going to continue to come in with my Son Supportive Payment.

Well little did I realize that my Spouse was right ON! Turning Over SS ~ $$ was the Worst Idea Ever!~ I feel its the Worst Non-Supportive way Social Security Could DO, by these actions, I feel its their way of Backing OUT as early as Possible - Backing Out of Support when our Children are still in High School, IT JUST PLAIN BAD!

Little did I know my Son, his Girl Friend, my Son Father and Others had other Views & Input and Idea that it was his right for himself! He had planned on Moving Out, as well his Father had sent a Release letter Relinquishing his Father of any Financial Responsibility & Stated he was also Self Supportive.

His Father Put into Child Support Court Division, The First Business Day, into
Stopping Support. Which was a REAL STAB in the Back. I had not been aware this was part of the Request to have this Stopped. His Father Had always been a Bad Seed! A Bad influence to my Son, someone who was always self centered to his Own Wants and Needs Never Looking Out for his Son. I travel 600 Miles Just out of Surgery from my 1st back surgery in Pain and Had to Medicate myself to be able to travel to Court. I had Custody and had always done things the right way. For the best Interest of my Son, I had gone to court since at the time of my Divorce I made sure the ONLY THING I wanted or ever asked for was to make sure he was responsible for proper Support through College.


After receiving this Request I was Hoping to have Child Support continued, even by asking the Court to turn it over to my Son since I was hoping my Son would change his mind and come to his Senses. I was going to protect my Son Interest since this Was the Only request I made sure his Father was responsible. Needless to say I was Shocked by my sons Letter to release his father being Responsible.

So Such if I could do it Differently I Would Not ALLOW MY SON TO RECEIVE these $$!

See as I explained to my Son if he Left, and walked out of the Door their was No Turning Back. His Actions and continued choices, and final Choice to Come Home Past his set time, & walking into home with Moving Boxes, and then Swearing at me, as I explained their was NO TURNING BACK! That THINGS would NEVER BE the SAME! Even though I was hoping for my son to eat crow and Come Back with tail between Leg But instead I was shocked by my Sons Choices! My son continued through with these choices Even thou I Warned him of what reaction would Come!

I had even asked a Friend who was Older Then I she was a RN to her hubby Practice for 20 Plus years before he retired & he was a Dr of Psychology, she knew me well & my Family I asked where did I go Wrong!

As I always did thing for my Son with his best Interest! For Him By my action not by what I said but by what I did.

She replied there where Outside influence and I had nothing to do with his choices, As I was always the type of Mother that made him responsible for his Actions.


I always told him when he wanted to move Out to let me know of Course it was UNDERSTOOD it was After he Graduate from HS and Preferably College. Well he took it his way as He had not even Graduated HS, I told him and sent him straight that he was considered a Adult in the Eyes of the Law, I also explained to him, as I always had that with every action comes a Reaction, Good for Good and Bad Action ~ Reacted responses with Bad Reaction and this was Natures way of Balance and that his Choices in Life would show these Reactions as they always have.

Little did I realize these choices he was making, but in fact I was shocked since I didn't understand where I went wrong. I took it so personal. I had never put myself first but instead showed by my Actions. Little did I realize how Little when his Hormones went into Over Drive how little all my action and Connections in showing him Right from Wrong.

I have been disabled since he my son was 2 1/2 years. This was Back in the Late 80's I was Diagnosed with RSD after having to wait for my Surgery need because of Pre-existing Problem which added a Wait Period & added on another year wait Period Per Insurance Company to have Ankle Fused~ So in the Late 80's, I was Recognized in stage 2-3, had to go through 6 months spinal Blocks after 1 year of Fusion not Healing. I thought at first they thought I felt Sorry for myself! Well years later what I do know is that Even thou Blocks finally I started to Heal I would Shatter that very Leg, from the knee Down to the Tips of my Toes, in the Hospital 3 weeks with 3 Surgeries, a Blood Clot all because of my Choice of Marring the Abusive Husband and I Broke the Leg that was recovering because of My Choice by the Hands of my Abusive Hubby!

But getting back to my Son, & Since I had been disabled I always did my Best in Giving back to the Community by Volunteering within Head Start Board, which since we fell into financial need within that time of Life, I was active in Volunteering and Giving of Myself. I also volunteer Started Volunteering for Hospice as well. I have always been embraced by my Disability because of the Label given by many who didn’t know I was disabled as it was considered a Way of a Person who was Lazy.

I always Pushed myself past the Pain to continued on thro all my Son School Years as PTA and helping with being a Room Mom or within his School ~ All even thou my Volunteering had caused Pain many times it still Gave back Much More! It also helped me to bring Focus Elsewhere!

Also a Chance to get connected with my Son action within School. I did everything by not just telling him Right from wrong but by my actions and even with who I allowed him to hang with, this has recently Came back to show me My Choice was Right ON! Never Doubt your REACTION, to Protect Your Kids From the Wrong Choices!

As I kicked Out One of Our Old Home Neighbor Boy, he had a Disrespectful Attitude towards me & said statements of the Attitude towards his Mom, well recently 13 plus years later, I found out from our Old neighbor that this very boy has been in and Out of Jail and also has a Girlfriend who he got Pregnant who also is a Addicted has lost custody of their Baby born addicted to Meth. The Mother to the Baby lost custody to her Mom the Grandma to this Child Since she too is also in and Out of Jail!

"In short after this Long Winded Explanation"
Sad But True Social Security is Making A MAJOR MISTAKE!

As I Did by giving my Son the SS $$, since he turned 18. And as he released his Dad of $$ and because of his Choices!

6 months later his Girlfriend was Pregnant! He went to my Husband to talk with him about such since I wouldn't talk with My Son, since he Spoke to me in such a Manner. I always explained I would never Allow that from My Son! So he Pushed himself Out of the Home 2 days earlier from when he Stated he was Moving Out!

I have to admit I sort of went Ballistic!

As I never ever would allow or permit such of Stealing or Disrespect with Swearing and needless to say after my Son came in Passed Set Curfew After Midnight On top of Walking in and Told me what he was going to be doing even After I warned him "My Son", Once he walked Out that Door that there was No Turning Back! That his Choices would be No More that he would Now become a Adult and would have No More Choices! So When he told me to Told me to Stop being a F - - - Bit--.

He was OUT! Within 2 Hours My Son Was PACKED AND KICKED Out 2 days EARLIER than what he told me he was MOVING OUT! I had exploded into a TEMPER MY HUSBAND KEPT ON SAYING CALM DOWN! I WAS ENRAGED that My Son who I always Put FIRST Would SWEAR AT ME and told me what he was going to DO! HE PUSHED AND I SHOVED!


He Knew with his Actions, what type of REACTION HE WOULD GET!

Needless to say My Son Choice to do what he wanted, with His CHOICES, I do have 2 Beautiful Grand kids! 1st Born a Grand Son and Second Born a Grand Daughter, as Your Children are Gift from God, and Well Grand Babies are AWESOME GIFTS SENT FROM HEVEN ABOVE!

He has Now been Ordered, instead of my Son Following the Example I taught him, instead he walked his Own Path, and Now Has to worry about How he is Going to Pay for College!

He Also has Been Ordered by the Courts to PAY OVER More than 50% of what he was earning since he after Just Graduated from 1 year Paramedic School or EMT. So instead as I have always Told Him With Every Action Comes a Reaction! IT BIT HIM BACK! HIS FATHER IS NO WHERE AROUND WITH ANY HELP or Support, AND AS I EXPLAINED AT THE BEGINNING HE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TURN BACK that Once Out that Door he would become a Adult!

Sad But True Social Security is Making A MAJOR MISTAKE!

Best of Luck! My Heart Goes Out To You, and ALL OTHERS FACING THIS SITUATION!

Cyber Hugs; Cindy C
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First to the poster of this thread.

First, explain to the kids that will be getting the checks, what their percentage of the rent will be. Explaining that because they are 18,
and are considered adults that you will need to charge them rent,
utilities and for food.

Unless they would like to just sign their checks back over to you.


Also explain what the cost of graduation is. And that they will have to
pay for the cost of things not already paid for. Since they now have
this money. They will need to put this aside.

That if you had been able to keep getting these checks this would be
things you would be paying for.

Try to make sure its more than they would make in a month.

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Why would Social Security ask you to send money unless they were claiming an overpayment? That letter might be a scam.

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Old 01-10-2010, 11:41 PM #14
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its not a scam, they do send that letter out when a child who is receiving ssdi as a dependant turns 18.
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How often do these letters come. I won in June and my daughter was 18 at the time she got around 7,000 back pay. She gave most of it to us as she was going to college this past fall and knew we needed that money for her books .etc. I now have a 16 year old daughter and a 10 year old that get $500 each per month. My attorney(ALLSUP) told me and my wife that we can take this money out and spend it as we seen fit for bills, and everything else that came up. Do we have to keep track of every penny?
Hello Hoosier;

I believe what your asking about is a letter, I received at the End of the year, when I was receiving $$ from my son. If you are setting $$ aside In regards to keeping track of $$ and every Penny.

I think they {SS} want to know if you have a account set in Child's Name, & if so how much $$ left at the end of the Year, Account info Name and all that stuff!

What I can Say & Personally, as Most might, the $$ Received from SS in no way is enough enough to fully support a Child. At the time when your child turns 18, if you do have a Bank account how much is left over at the time when your Child reaches 18. After all the $$ Provided to the Parent who is disabled that the Child resides with, it was provided in place to Offset the Loss of income & to be used as to help provide Needs for your Children.

As for the Saving of $$ Realistically in todays economy are they for Real?

HTH; Wishing all the Best with Gods Blessings!
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I have MS (I'm in a chair, only one hand works, all that MS stuff( SSDI has been sending money every month for my kids, they turn 18 today but are still in High School so they'll be paid until graduation. But SSDI sent a letter, saying it is best they send kids checks direct and if I've saved any $$ in saved or investments (The College fund for them- the 529?) I should send monies to them!!! Money I have left over from any checks they sent me?? Left over? Think they need to send me money. Are they just idiots??
What seems to be common thread in this thread is the because the poster isn't able to save money that SSA should assume that no parent can save money from the Social Security auxilliary or survivor benefits. Also, the amount of money paid is based like all other Social Security payments, the amount of money you paid into the system. It is not related to how much money you think you need to raise your child.

There are parents who do save money. Even in this economy. And there are rules that apply. Payee accountings are required by law.
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The way I understand it, If I manage to save $ for my kid's college, I will be punished by fighting system for control of $ after I could have spent it already with no problems. I called SS yesterday. The lines were busy, the wait was long, after giving my SS number they didn't recognize me, I tried hard, their voice recognition software would not recognize me. They want me to give them large amounts of money now to manage? Aren't most sociology majors? I really did well, you know. The market fell, I'm still doing ok.
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I got the same letter last December. All you have to do is to have an account where your child will be able to access it. You dont have to send the money back.
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Good. The money is tucked away. I don't really have acess without tax liability. Their college will quickly devour this 529. We are older parents, DH is already thinking about retirement, saying the cat food looks good. Me, I think it stinks.
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I think the truth is SSDI really does kinda think Parents who take SSDI (like I want MS) are not savers or great parents. I'm prejudiced about the competency of such a government agency to do right with my money I must admit. Yeah, I do consider it MY money, despite what others might think. I think I'm entitled to SS too. It's really not my fault the gov. may not be handling it well. I used to trust them. Not now. (idiots, mumble, mumble)
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