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While reading article about SSDI, I occasionally find the use of the term, "Disability Report". I know what a Function Report is. I am not sure what a disability report is. Is it the same thing as a function report? Thanks.
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While reading article about SSDI, I occasionally find the use of the term, "Disability Report". I know what a Function Report is. I am not sure what a disability report is. Is it the same thing as a function report? Thanks.
The Function Report is VERY important.

Consider what you're able to do, not able to do. What you've been required to adapt, etc. It will be compared to medical documentation and needs to be consistent with report of functional limitations. So, don't exaggerate, but don't under report either.

https://www.socialsecurity.gov/forms/ssa-3373-bk.pdf

The Disability Report is obviously very important as well. List any medical conditions that prevent you from working. So, it's better to not list conditions like adult onset diabetes that is controlled with diet and/or meds, for example. List them from most severe to least severe. It's important that you're receiving ongoing medical treatment for these conditions and are compliant with your treatment plan and taking prescribed meds.

Your Alleged Onset Date must be after you stopped working at the SGA level ($1090 per month in 2015). If you have any complicated history tring to choose that date, ask questions.

http://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-3368.pdf

Plan on filling out a copy first to practice on and then when perfected, transfer answers to originals sent by SS.
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Your Alleged Onset Date must be after you stopped working at the SGA level ($1090 per month in 2015). If you have any complicated history tring to choose that date, ask questions.


***********Gal56b (canifindagooddr) says - 'yeah, the above has me totally confused. Here is what happened and some history. This school year that just finished up in May 2015 was my 25th in a row of teaching elementary PE. On Feb. 28 2015 - I started FMLA due to PN and Mental stress . . . I did not return to work after FMLA began. I resign. Last year I signed a 12 month contract. So, although I did not work in the schools from Feb until now - i will still get a July 20th and an Aug 20th 2015 paycheck based on the 12th month contract I signed last year. Get it? Thanks!
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Your Alleged Onset Date must be after you stopped working at the SGA level ($1090 per month in 2015). If you have any complicated history tring to choose that date, ask questions.


***********Gal56b (canifindagooddr) says - 'yeah, the above has me totally confused. Here is what happened and some history. This school year that just finished up in May 2015 was my 25th in a row of teaching elementary PE. On Feb. 28 2015 - I started FMLA due to PN and Mental stress . . . I did not return to work after FMLA began. I resign. Last year I signed a 12 month contract. So, although I did not work in the schools from Feb until now - i will still get a July 20th and an Aug 20th 2015 paycheck based on the 12th month contract I signed last year. Get it? Thanks!
AOD should be March 1, 2015. There is a 5 month waiting period, so you won't even be eligible for benefits until Aug 2015. The fact that pay was delayed should have no effect, although SS will probably want to verify you didn't work after Feb 2015 at some point.
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AOD should be March 1, 2015. There is a 5 month waiting period, so you won't even be eligible for benefits until Aug 2015. The fact that pay was delayed should have no effect, although SS will probably want to verify you didn't work after Feb 2015 at some point.
Totally confused . . . but if this is something I have control over . . . .then why worry about it? Do I have any control over this? Aug 2015 is plenty soon enough for me about benefits!
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Totally confused . . . but if this is something I have control over . . . .then why worry about it? Do I have any control over this? Aug 2015 is plenty soon enough for me about benefits!
Aug 15 just begins the point when you are first eligible for benefits. It doesn't mean you'll be approved by then or receive actual payment.

The Alleged Onset Date is an important concept to understand. An ALJ can choose a later date if s/he wishes, and that's called the Established Onset Date. Why would a later date be chosen? Sometimes it's tied to specific medical documentation and sometimes to when an applicant turns age 50 or 55.
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Aug 15 just begins the point when you are first eligible for benefits. It doesn't mean you'll be approved by then or receive actual payment.

The Alleged Onset Date is an important concept to understand. An ALJ can choose a later date if s/he wishes, and that's called the Established Onset Date. Why would a later date be chosen? Sometimes it's tied to specific medical documentation and sometimes to when an applicant turns age 50 or 55.
Again, not to be rude, I'm just short on time with my getting ready for my KC trip. Do I have any control as this stuff? If not, I will not worry myself with it. Heck, I do not even had my Function Report filled out yet. One thing at a time for me. But I understand, it is also needful to see 'what is coming around the bend.' Thanks.
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Aug 15 just begins the point when you are first eligible for benefits. It doesn't mean you'll be approved by then or receive actual payment.

The Alleged Onset Date is an important concept to understand. An ALJ can choose a later date if s/he wishes, and that's called the Established Onset Date. Why would a later date be chosen? Sometimes it's tied to specific medical documentation and sometimes to when an applicant turns age 50 or 55.
Again, not to be rude, I'm just short on time with my getting ready for my KC trip. Do I have any control as this stuff? If not, I will not worry myself with it. Heck, I do not even had my Function Report filled out yet. One thing at a time for me. But I understand, it is also needful to see 'what is coming around the bend.' Thanks.
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Again, not to be rude, I'm just short on time with my getting ready for my KC trip. Do I have any control as this stuff? If not, I will not worry myself with it. Heck, I do not even had my Function Report filled out yet. One thing at a time for me. But I understand, it is also needful to see 'what is coming around the bend.' Thanks.
Your AOD is your first important decision when you apply. (And frankly if you don't understand the concept it helps us figure out how knowledgeable you are so that we can answer your questions.)

You've already applied, so yes you just need to move forward at this point.

In an ideal situation, you would have spent more time understanding the process before applying.

I'm surprised an attorney accepted you. They are only paid on backpay, so it's unusual s/he did. Your goal should be to be approved at the 1st stage. So, there is a bit of conflict with your goals and your attorney getting paid...
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Your AOD is your first important decision when you apply. (And frankly if you don't understand the concept it helps us figure out how knowledgeable you are so that we can answer your questions.)

****Understood.

You've already applied, so yes you just need to move forward at this point.

****OK.

In an ideal situation, you would have spent more time understanding the process before applying.

*****Nothing is ideal when one is disabled, unemployed, recently divorced with three kids all under the age of 13, blah, blah, blah. Grin.

I'm surprised an attorney accepted you.

***** Why? Do you think I have a weak case?

***** RGGlaw.net accepted my case. The attorney said, "75% of the people that call us about SSDI we turn down because we do not think they have a strong case. We are accepting you because we think you have a strong case based on your work history (25 straight years teaching), your age (51), and your excellent medical records (I see doctors often I have a number of DX's -- PN, Bipolar, ADD, OCB, GAD).

They are only paid on backpay, so it's unusual s/he did. Your goal should be to be approved at the 1st stage. So, there is a bit of conflict with your goals and your attorney getting paid...
***** Yeah, I kind of figured that part out on my own. I ran it by my brother (a doctor of 30 years) - "No . . . they would not do that (not help me much in the beginning to draw this thing out so they get more money). That would be unethical. Possibly worthy of getting disbarred." I didn't argue with him but I find your argument more agreeable than my big brother's. Maybe the law firm has some 'fine ink/small words' in the contract that says they get a boatload of money no matter when I get approved... I would not put that past an attorney. My apologizes to any honest attorneys that might be on this forum - the last sentence did not apply to you.

I have never used the services of an attorney until my ex-wife unexpectedly threw me out of my own house. I didn't even think that was legal given the fact that I have never been abusive to her or our kids. I have no police record. It just seemed unconstitutional to throw a man out of his own house with no warning at all. "Give us your keys, the remote control to your garage, you have 30 minutes to pack and you will not be staying here tonight." Wow. Off topic. Sorry. Just gives you a bit of background.

Since getting Pearl Harbored . . . I have hired three lawyers. 2 I do not like at all and feel that they did more bad than good . . . and the jury is still own on RGG. So far, OK.

Finally, I will say this about RGG . . . they have been timely and professional in all my many dealings with them over the last two and a half months. I could not and would not EVER say that about the first two attorneys I had to hire . . . One is probably going to get fired next week unless . . .
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