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ginnie 01-26-2012 04:54 PM

cool advice and cool quotes/doc
 
I read all the quotes. What I got the most out of all, was "Peace" I guess the key is not to worry, as it does get in the way of compassion. I liked that one too. You find the coolest stuff Doc. medicine for the soul. ginnie

seahorse02 01-26-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 845273)
That is exactly why I worry about you seahorse. The connection to more pain with stress does happen. The more stress you are under, the worse the pain gets. Maybe Doc. can answer why. In my own life, I KNOW that happens.
ginnie:hug:

Ginnie, stop worrying so much - you're stressing me out! :D

Wishing you fewer stressors.

ginnie 01-26-2012 05:10 PM

turn it over to God
 
Ok Doc. I will turn it over to God before I go to sleep.:D ginnie

Dr. Smith 01-26-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 845383)
You find the coolest stuff Doc.

Google. Don't leave [your] home[page] without it! :p

Doc

seahorse02 01-26-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 845383)
I read all the quotes. What I got the most out of all, was "Peace" I guess the key is not to worry, as it does get in the way of compassion. I liked that one too. You find the coolest stuff Doc. medicine for the soul. ginnie

Yes he does! That is a cool site.
Favorite: Do not be afraid of tomorrow; for God is already there. ~Author Unknown
Love the humor in: We experience moments absolutely free from worry. These brief respites are called panic. ~Cullen Hightower

Doc, thanks for the post with links for the connection between stress and pain. I want to spend some time on those.

ger715 01-26-2012 07:48 PM

I'll add just one more:
"Yesterday is History,
Tomorrow is a Mystery,
Today is a gift -
That's why it is called the Present"

seahorse02 01-26-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 845323)
The self-perpetuating downward spiral - or "vicious cycle" as it's called/known - of pain, stress, depression, and insomnia (and sometimes other factors) is very well-documented. I've written and given presentations about it more times than I can recall. (But I still have to google to find links :o)

http://www.nwedbmed.com/chronicpain.html
http://www.whatworksforpain.com/2010...-chronic-pain/
http://www.my-spine.com/back-pain-an...-distress.html
http://rachicks.com/ra-pain-chronic-...vicious-cycle/

Doc

Thanks again for the links. Things aren't quite so scary when we know a little bit more about them do they? Well, except for back surgery....just kidding Doc!! Learned that pain does not always actually increase, but that our tolerance level may be decreasing as time goes on. Interesting. Was somewhat surprised they did not mention outside stress in relation to pain/chronic pain.

seahorse02 01-27-2012 09:41 AM

Hey Doc, sometimes the steps in the Vicious Cycle do not come in that specific order do they? Not prone to depression here, regardless of circumstance thank goodness but that insomnia steps right up to the front - well 2nd to the pain. Can't GO to sleep for the pain, then WAKE from the pain. Guess that may have more to do with PAIN MANAGEMENT i.e. the drugs being currently used - in my case anyway. Of course stupidly over-doing may have a lot to do with it, but I cannot seem to STOP myself - because if I did what my body is telling me I would just be on the couch all day - then that Depression would SURELY set in. Acceptance (and patience) hasn't thoroughly taken hold I suppose....

Dr. Smith 01-27-2012 11:42 AM

Grand Master Oogway...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ger715 (Post 845432)
"Yesterday is History,
Tomorrow is a Mystery,
Today is a gift -
That's why it is called the Present"

Hey, we've got Kung Fu Panda too! :D
(Didn't care for the sequel as much - didn't have quite the same "feel" for us. Not that it wasn't good - just liked the first one better. YMMV.)

Running family gag: We're horrible with names; can never remember Oogway and Shifu, so we call them Agway and Seafood. :p

Doc

Dr. Smith 01-27-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by seahorse02 (Post 845484)
Was somewhat surprised they did not mention outside stress in relation to pain/chronic pain.

Mmmmm.... Stress is stress is stress, and (I believe they did mention this) pain is a form of stress too.

OTOH, there is bad stress and there is good stress. E.G. sex = good stress! :o

Doc


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