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Old 04-07-2012, 12:20 PM #1
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Hi Linda,

I know where you're coming from, but please don't sell them, or yourself, short. The people you love, and who love you most, have the greatest capacity for understanding & compassion.

If it's the descriptive language that's difficult to put into words, try googling: describe pain. There you'll find words and language to help describe it to both doctors and loved ones.

If it's a matter of comprehension, everyone has had incidents of pain in their lives, both physical and emotional. Think about those times and try to analogize. "Remember that time when ______. Remember the pain and emotions you felt? How bad it hurt and no-one else could understand? Now imagine feeling (like) that every day of your life. Well... that's how I feel, Sweetheart."

That's blunt and oversimplified, but I think you get the idea. Analogizing - putting things into terms people can understand and relate to from their own experiences - is often a powerful learning/teaching tool.

I think it's also important to be aware that our loved ones often seem to behave as if they're ignoring or forgetting about our pain. If they seem to be ignoring it, it may be because they don't want to be the reminders; they don't want to make you feel bad/worse by bringing things up. They may also be trying to distract you from thinking about it because distraction is a legitimate and effective way of coping with chronic pain. If it seems that they forget how much pain you're in, that may be a good thing too. That may mean you're doing a good job of coping, and putting those around you at ease rather than uncomfortable and on edge. Though we may be victims, I think it's best that we don't play the part of victims - that we don't accept that role (but from what I've read, I think you already know that. ).

I hope we can talk more about this,

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I do realize that my family are my biggest cheerleaders when it comes to me overcoming this battle that I deal with. And my children do a wonderful job of trying to distract my pain with my grandchildren. They are wonderful. I guess you just sometimes feel that people get tired of hearing that you hurt or if they even believe you. I do not feel as I am a victim at all and hope I didnt come across as that. I feel like I do an excellent job coping with what I deal with. Alot of people would be so out of it on meds that they could not function at all and I choose not to do that because I want some quality of life. I have learned to deal with the pain. I let go when I am alone, I don;t like for anyone to see what it does to me. They tell me how strong I am, when if they only knew.
Thank you for your words. It is so nice to come hear and [be heard.
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Sorry you are having these back issues. None of it is fun. I have had two cervical fussions. I was an artist working under a magnafier for 30 years. I ruined my cervical spine. My ankles gave way with another degenerative condition, so top and bottom are not working right. I could not go back to work in that condition. I do hope you can find something good to do work wise. I can't tell you how much I miss my business, travel, the excitement of having my own business. Working is a joy, I never did get over that not working part. I still want to badly. ginnie
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Sorry you are having these back issues. None of it is fun. I have had two cervical fussions. I was an artist working under a magnafier for 30 years. I ruined my cervical spine. My ankles gave way with another degenerative condition, so top and bottom are not working right. I could not go back to work in that condition. I do hope you can find something good to do work wise. I can't tell you how much I miss my business, travel, the excitement of having my own business. Working is a joy, I never did get over that not working part. I still want to badly. ginnie
It is just so nice to filnally find a place where someone has an idea of what I experience everyday painwise. Thank you for your encouraging words.
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Default Hi Linda

Yes, that is why I stayed with Neuro Talk. Here at least people do understand the real issues of medical trauma. Our daily lives are drastically changed. I sure hope you do not have to have surgery on your back. I never thought I would have to have a second one. I am also worried about another surgery on my neck. C1-2 and t1-2 don't always feel so good. I come back here for that compassion and understanding as often as I can. I hope this day finds you with less pain. ginnie
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I had L4-S1 fusion when i was 37. Im just wondering how many people did more then 1 back surgery. What kind of job did you have? Did that job make put more stress on your back? Right know im on Long term disablity just had hip arthroscopic surgery on 2/17. When i heal and recover i will go back to work, but my job terminated me october 2012 because i was on LTD for a year. I was a communication installer pretty physical job. Im just wondering if a should find job less physical job so my back surgery doesnt give out. I really dont want to have another back surgery. What jobs did you do and was it to much on your back? I dont think i can sit in office doing work. I would go nuts. So whats a good job for me to do?
Sorry you are so worried.

Having one surgery does not always mean you will have more surgeries.

I have had 3 and am having one more on the 17th. But my back and c-spine were all bad due to an accident.

Two were on my lower back (one fusion was rejected and had to be redone)

The other was my cervical surgery. Now I have to have more of the surgery done there.

It is important to know/understand that it was noted that I needed surgery in 1994 and no one did it until 2002. It was almost too late. A car accident would have snapped my neck.

MY UNCLE, on the other hand, was walking bent over and had one surgery and never had to have another and it's been over 25 years.

It depends on the person/ their health/their outlook/ their general overall support system. It really does matter if you have support of people and/or family (even if they are not your biological family) and can be calm over things. Stress makes pain worse.

I hope that helps.

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So whats a good job for me to do?
There's a movie out on cable/DVD - The Social Network - a biopic about Mark Zuckerberg, Harvard dropout and co-creator of Facebook (and one of the world's youngest billionaires.)

The single line in the movie that impressed me most was, "Harvard undergraduates believe that inventing a job is better than finding a job."

Harvard - schmarvard, I think it's a great philosophy/aspiration for anyone from anywhere!

Whoever said it, they were right - "Youth is wasted on the young!" - attributed to George Bernard Shaw, Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, and probly some others...

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Do you have a passion in your life that you love to do? Sometimes that can indeed, lead to your own business. What are your interests? ginnie
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Do you have a passion in your life that you love to do? Sometimes that can indeed, lead to your own business. What are your interests? ginnie
My interests are cars and houses. I been reading books about flipping houses. Was told today i was approved for ss disablity. Due to all my injuries. The thing is a cant stay on it forever cause i miss going to work and doing things. Being stuck home is no fun at all.
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I am glad you got SSD. I too have that, and I HATE not working. I was an artist who looked down into a magnafier, and made very small animals in sculpture. I had a 30 years business I had to give up. I ruined my cervial spine working at this craft. Now I am doing a limited amount of mosaics, where I can look forward, on a bench with a board that is upright. I don't have to look up or down that way. This is nice, but it isn't my passion. It does give me a creative release at least, so i can do something. I do miss my job, my career, and travel.
You like cars and homes. The selling or flipping of homes has been going on in my neck of the woods, and is not right now very profitable. I live in a high tourist area. You also like to read. sometimes publishers have a research dept. where they hire people to read books critically. Are you a mechanic? Or is your love of cars, just to have one and enjoy it. I can't sit still either. I also help an older woman clean her home. Even though I limp doing it, I would rather do something than just sit at home. That has been terrible for me too.
Most of my emotional troubles come from the fact I had to give up my occupation that I worked at for so long. I too am a reader. What book are your currently reading? Maybe we can exchange some good book ideas. Have a good day, hope something comes into your life to bring peace. ginnie
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