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Old 10-25-2011, 09:19 AM #21
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Huge fan of the patches. I have seen docs order the gel in a tube for those whose insurance will not pay.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:30 PM #22
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Hi all- new in town here!
I have these patches now thanks to finally being seen by a PM team. I originally had a Barrett's Procedure (MCL reconstruction in a complex way) on my left knee in Feb 2010. As it took quite a while to get to the bottom of my knee condition (1 year in total and 18 months after the original accident and me procrastinating on it) i was standing incorrectly to ease the pressure.
Long story short it has caused some nerve damage in the lower left lumbar region. I have a wonderful PM consultant now who has give me 'nerve' meds to try and he's actually give me the patches for the hypersensitivity left behind by my op. I have a random patch of numbness that has a fault line over the shin bone. It's like electricity to run your finger over it. As a performer i was struggling with little things like trying to do quick changes as fabric brushing over it would make me jump.
I have only been on a week and i feel like they are helping some to dull the 'the fault line'. The hope is that after a few months it will deaden it.

My question is- do they only come in a 5% strength and if so can i put two full patches on to cover a larger area? I also see some of you are using them for pain relief on your spine- if i have one on my leg, can i have one on my spine also for when the pills aren't enough?
Thank you all in advance!
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Default Lidocaine Patches and Canadian Pharmacies

My wife is successfully using liocaine or lidoderm 5% patches. However, they are not covered by her Medicare Part D drug plan. I have no problem getting prescriptions but cannot find a decent price in the US to buy them without insurance at a pharmacy.

Are any of you buying in Cananda and can you recommend a reputable pharmacy that you have experience with. A price for lidoderm patches woul also be appreciated if you have one.

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Cool I use the patches

Thy seem to work. But very very expensive. 4 boxes are around $800.00 dollars. Of course if u have a good insurance it is cheaper. Now I can only get generic it is not covered. I have about 10 envelopes left. Only use if I can't stand the pain.
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Default lidodern patches

you can use up to three whole patches ask your dr for a 90 of theme three boxs for same deductible.
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Gosh, I didn't have ANY luck with these at all. I'd place them where I was supposed to, and no relief. I'd even use more than one, and still no relief. I have severe back pain, as well as severe sciatica -- I've had that for 26 years!!! I finally just quit using them cause they just didn't work.
I was on some oral meds along with the patches and I still didn't get the relief.

Now I'm just on oral meds, but the doc found a combo that works great for me. I'm on Opana ER plus Lyrica, Topamax and Cymbalta and I have almost NO pain -- and after 26 years, this is like winning the lottery!

Best of luck all. I wish you all NO PAIN! God bless. Hugs, Lee
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These patches were made for shingles pain, my pain management doc turned me on to them for S1 related foot pain & calf cramping. I've been using them for minor to severe muscle cramps, they helped me! When my scar-tissue bothers me in the L5-S1 I put half a patch on, numbs it right out. Your Doc will have to write a script for them, they cost $120. a box of 30, my co-payment was 10 bucks.
Just wanted to pass this on, I've been a spinie for 10 years now an been visiting BT1 since 1997, great info that doc's don't want you to know...

Does anybody know what there made from-he-hee? Ric
for me, they only work for certain types of pain- others my tens unit which my insurance company allowed me to buy rather than rent helpps
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All I know is that they're colder than hell when applied, so warming them up somewhere (like sitting on the unopened package for 5 minutes), works really well.

I was prescribed the Lidoderm patches originally for the bone harvesting site, but have used them for my continued low back pain under many circumstances with some relief. There's a ton of them per box & I got 4 boxes, so the supply is almost endless.
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Are the lidoderm patches narcotic? If they are I dont think I can ask for them. My doc will not prescribe narcs, and I have no idea why.

Lidocaine is a topical anesthetic, non narcotic, even though it has "caine" in the name, it's nothing that will cause any sort of side effects associated with cocaine or other controlled substances.
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Lidocaine is a sodium channel blocking agent.

It stops nerve impulses and this how it works to numb pain.

I have had huge success with these patches over the years.

What does happen however, is that some insurances will not pay for them, unless you have a prior diagnosis of shingles.

But then if you are denied, your doctor can appeal that with medical need by fax to your carrier. It might work in your favor.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16178759

One needs to be patient with these patches as they don't work instantly...it may be a day 2 or 3 days to show benefit.
Also you have to place them carefully. I find looking at an anatomy book with nerve pathways, helps. Putting them on the endpoints of pain, works less, than on the pathway of the nerve axon.

I place 1/2 patch on the tops of my feet therefore for burning foot pain. 1/2 patch behind the knee sometimes, and when I had the terrible MP neuropathy I used 1/2 patch in 2 areas at the top of the thigh... in 2 weeks the nerve stopped firing, and I was in a remission! (lateral femoral nerve).

I think doctors who deny this potential treatment do so because they don't understand it or how to effect success with it.
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