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Old 10-17-2008, 12:35 AM #1
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I think you need to give yourself more time to heal. I only had one level fused and at 3 weeks I was still very limited in motion and still in some pain.

I was not told I was fused for months, in other words I didn't think you could fuse that fast. Anyone else know more about that??

If your doc has not ordered physical therapy be sure to ask. It will help get all the movement back. Ok just went back and read about PT. Giv eit some time.

Remember that was a big surgery, don't rush yourself and try to take it easy and let your body heal...Sue
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I would definitely give yourself more time.

My experience has been (and have had two fusions at two different times) that the docs do not order PT right away. If anything, I was made to wait at least 4 to 6 weeks before doing any GENTLE ROM exercises. Snoozie is right it takes a good while before you are solidly fused. I was fused at 3 months with both surgeries BUT it was not solid. So, I had to wait another 3months before I saw via xray that it was a solid fusion. I think what your doc probably meant by a successful fusion is that nothing is visibly wrong...not that you are totally fused. In any case, it takes quite awhile.

As for the arm. You had 3 levels done; that's quite a bit at one time and major surgery. Now, I did have my left arm go haywire two days after my second fusion. It was extremely painful and I could barely move it. So, I went to the ER and they ran all kinds of tests. What it came down to was a severe spasm. Valium at a higher dose kicked it out. Anyway, it was explained to me later by the NS's PA that when they free up these nerves so to speak, they are angry and "plump up". Made sense to me considering they were compressed for so long. She explained that it can take awhile for them to calm back down again.

So, it will probably pass but I would give it a lot more time. As Snoozie said, just give yourself time to heal. It sounds to me like pretty bad spasms. I would definitely ask the doc about some Valium or something similar. And just one more thing...I am currently having trouble with my left arm....but it has been almost 3 years since the last fusion. The docs think a torn rotator cuff; not sure yet because I just had an MRI done. Anyway, one thing my spinal PM told me and has told me for a long time now...do NOT let any PT tug and pull at your arms unless they know EXACTLY what they are doing and especially because of the two fusions I have. He's right. I went into PT before on a couple of occasions and it tore me up. So, Jo is right too. There are good ones and there are bad ones. I happened to have a very young gal that was way too aggressive.

So, go easy and remember your surgery was only 3 weeks ago. As Jo and Snoozie are saying, give yourself time and go VERY EASY. Personally, I think it is way too early for PT. You COULD try gentle massage therapy; that was something that was recommended right after surgery but the PA was adamant that it be LIGHT massage therapy...not deep tissue. And just one last hint. When I was told I could go ahead with ROM exercises, my PM told me to do them in a hot shower. Oh, and he has had two cervical fusions himself. Now what he recommended helped a great deal.

Hang in there and I think with time the spasms or palsy should pass with the appropriate meds and THEN PT if necessary.
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I have had a cervical fusion as well, and all the above info is good. Before the surgery I could not use my arm at all. The neurosurgeon was going to fuse two levels but ended up fusing only one, the other is stil bulging. It took some months to get the use of my arm back. I think about 6 months or so, and that was one level. So give yourself some time. There is good advice in the above posts, and there is hope.
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I would definitely give yourself more time.

My experience has been (and have had two fusions at two different times) that the docs do not order PT right away. If anything, I was made to wait at least 4 to 6 weeks before doing any GENTLE ROM exercises. Snoozie is right it takes a good while before you are solidly fused. I was fused at 3 months with both surgeries BUT it was not solid. So, I had to wait another 3months before I saw via xray that it was a solid fusion. I think what your doc probably meant by a successful fusion is that nothing is visibly wrong...not that you are totally fused. In any case, it takes quite awhile.

As for the arm. You had 3 levels done; that's quite a bit at one time and major surgery. Now, I did have my left arm go haywire two days after my second fusion. It was extremely painful and I could barely move it. So, I went to the ER and they ran all kinds of tests. What it came down to was a severe spasm. Valium at a higher dose kicked it out. Anyway, it was explained to me later by the NS's PA that when they free up these nerves so to speak, they are angry and "plump up". Made sense to me considering they were compressed for so long. She explained that it can take awhile for them to calm back down again.

So, it will probably pass but I would give it a lot more time. As Snoozie said, just give yourself time to heal. It sounds to me like pretty bad spasms. I would definitely ask the doc about some Valium or something similar. And just one more thing...I am currently having trouble with my left arm....but it has been almost 3 years since the last fusion. The docs think a torn rotator cuff; not sure yet because I just had an MRI done. Anyway, one thing my spinal PM told me and has told me for a long time now...do NOT let any PT tug and pull at your arms unless they know EXACTLY what they are doing and especially because of the two fusions I have. He's right. I went into PT before on a couple of occasions and it tore me up. So, Jo is right too. There are good ones and there are bad ones. I happened to have a very young gal that was way too aggressive.

So, go easy and remember your surgery was only 3 weeks ago. As Jo and Snoozie are saying, give yourself time and go VERY EASY. Personally, I think it is way too early for PT. You COULD try gentle massage therapy; that was something that was recommended right after surgery but the PA was adamant that it be LIGHT massage therapy...not deep tissue. And just one last hint. When I was told I could go ahead with ROM exercises, my PM told me to do them in a hot shower. Oh, and he has had two cervical fusions himself. Now what he recommended helped a great deal.

Hang in there and I think with time the spasms or palsy should pass with the appropriate meds and THEN PT if necessary.
Thank you so much for the optimistic response. You feel so all alone when something like this happens and the Dr's are always like it's not a big deal and in a hurry. I feel better having read your response and will heed your advice. I'll let everyone know how I progress down the road. Again thank you so much and all the best to you.
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I think you need to give yourself more time to heal. I only had one level fused and at 3 weeks I was still very limited in motion and still in some pain.

I was not told I was fused for months, in other words I didn't think you could fuse that fast. Anyone else know more about that??

If your doc has not ordered physical therapy be sure to ask. It will help get all the movement back. Ok just went back and read about PT. Giv eit some time.

Remember that was a big surgery, don't rush yourself and try to take it easy and let your body heal...Sue
Thank you for your response. It helps to hear from someone that has had a similar experience when you are feeling so all alone with a new problem. I'm sure you are correct in that I'm not fused yet. Just that surgery appeared successful from xrays. I will heed your advice and will let all know of my progress as time passes. Again my most sincere thanks and my best to you.
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