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Alffe · 03-16-2011, 03:33 PM

Very appropriate dear friend. I know that you remember my talking about walking around the cemetary where Michael is buried with a loaded gun just months after his death.

I remember talking to my wonderful dr. who lost a neice to suicide and she told me "don't do anything stupid!"

You are soooo doing the right thing Doody...you are talking about your feelings with professionals. People cannot help you if they don't know how you feel.

Suicide is an awful legacy to leave those you love...and some people see it as giving permission to the act.

Doody · 03-16-2011, 05:23 PM

((Ms. Alffe)) that is exactly what my therapist said. Those left behind who become suicidal see a loved one's suicide act as permission for them to commit suicide as well.

dnserror · 03-18-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Doody

((Ms. Alffe)) that is exactly what my therapist said. Those left behind who become suicidal see a loved one's suicide act as permission for them to commit suicide as well.

Seriously?

Alffe · 03-18-2011, 10:55 AM

Seriously...especially children which is why they must be told the truth about suicide and told that it is not an ok choice.

Doody · 03-23-2011, 03:19 PM

Hi dnserror. When I see the therapist next Monday, I'll ask where she gets those statistics. She did tell me but my brain forgot.

Maybe this will help.

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What are the risk factors for suicide?

Research shows that risk factors for suicide include:

* depression and other mental disorders, or a substance-abuse disorder (often in combination with other mental disorders). More than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have these risk factors.2
* prior suicide attempt
* family history of mental disorder or substance abuse
* family history of suicide
* family violence, including physical or sexual abuse
* firearms in the home,3 the method used in more than half of suicides
* incarceration
* exposure to the suicidal behavior of others, such as family members, peers, or media figures.2

However, suicide and suicidal behavior are not normal responses to stress; many people have these risk factors, but are not suicidal. Research also shows that the risk for suicide is associated with changes in brain chemicals called neurotransmitters, including serotonin. Decreased levels of serotonin have been found in people with depression, impulsive disorders, and a history of suicide attempts, and in the brains of suicide victims. 4

From here. http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publi...on/index.shtml

Doody · 03-23-2011, 03:25 PM

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Suicide Attempts

A suicide attempt means a child is trying to kill his or herself but survives.

What makes a child more likely to attempt suicide?

If a child has major depressive disorder, he or she is seven times more likely to try suicide. About 22% of depressed children will try suicide. Looking at it another way, children and teenagers who attempt suicide are 8 times more likely to have a mood disorder, three times more likely to have an anxiety disorder, and 6 times more likely to have a substance abuse problem.(7). A family history of suicidal behavior and guns that are available also increase the risk.

A very major factor is family members who have committed suicide. If a girl's biological parent has committed suicide, she is 4-5 times as likely to make a suicide attempt. If a girl's sibling has committed suicide, she is 11 times more likely to try to kill herself. (36) The vast majority (almost 90%) of children and adolescents who attempt suicide have psychiatric disorders. Over 75% have had some psychiatric contact in the last year. (6) If a number of these are present, suicide risk needs to be carefully assessed regularly. If children are constantly dwelling on death and think being dead would be kind of nice, they are more likely to make a serious attempt. (15).

http://www.klis.com/chandler/pamphlet/dep/Suicide.htm

Doody · 03-23-2011, 03:35 PM

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CONCLUSIONS: The rate of suicide was twice as high in families of suicide victims as in comparison families. A family history of suicide predicted suicide independent of severe mental disorder.

The American Journal of Psychiatry

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