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Wiix 09-30-2015 12:08 PM

I hear ya. :o

Hopeless 09-30-2015 04:57 PM

Dear Dancing Lady,

I am torn between wanting to offer you empathy or be blunt. I don't know enough about you to know what your life is like. I have NO psychological training so I can't "talk you off the ledge" and say all the "right" things.

Icelander wrote about "freedom" to choose and I respect that. I posted a response to you on another thread already on 9/5/2015 explaining my personal views and experiences.

I may one day feel as you do, that there is NO other relief than end of life. As already stated, we are ALL going to die one day and it is a matter of when and you state that you want to make that choice. That is your prerogative. I do respect that but there are always two sides to a coin.

It has been said that suicide is a selfish act. People have no regard for those around them that will be devastated by the loss.

Many times we think that decisions we make about our own lives is no one else's business. After all, it is OUR life, right? Well, that is one way to look at it. But that is not the entire story. Our actions have many ripple effects and affect others. We do not live in isolation with no effect upon others. We touch people's lives whether we mean to do so or not. You have touched people HERE. We may not know you but we actually DO care about you.

Do you have any family? What about them?

What are your health problems? Did I read that you have diabetic neuropathy? If that is the case, I have news for you. It CAN get better. Do I remember correctly that you worked in the health care industry at some time? Is the suffering you may have seen having any influence over how you are feeling?

While I respect that it is your life and your decision, I can't help but plead that you seek help to STAY ALIVE and improve your pain level, rather than seek help to escape what may be a temporary situation.

As I said, I do not know you or why you want to contemplate assisted suicide, but I urge you to seek help in the opposite direction and exhaust ALL avenues before you make any decisions. STOP looking for someone to help you DIE and START seeking help to LIVE a better and less painful life.

I hope you will read this post and think about choosing LIFE. Do you know for absolute SURE that an earthly death will end your pain and suffering? I don't think anyone knows that for sure. You are basing your death wish upon an unknown.

Personally, I will wait until I have no choice in the matter to find out what if anything follows life as we know it. I could change my mind in the future but once you decide to end it, you can't change your mind.

Please let us hear from you. We are here to help. Think about others. STOP dwelling on the negatives. I am sure there is something positive in your life.

Why do you think so many of us respond to your posts? We care about you.

Hopeless 09-30-2015 05:07 PM

Dancing Lady,

I forgot to ask. Why the name dancing lady? Do you like dance? Were you a dancer? Do you watch "Dancing with the Stars" on TV?

Maybe you could start there. Watch something you enjoy to take your mind off your pain.

Remember, life is precious. My neighbor just lost her life this morning and wanted nothing more than to be here longer. She was given no choice. Her time had come. Everyone is devastated. Please do not cause that pain for your loved ones.

If you wish to share more about yourself, maybe we will understand better, and can be more supportive and helpful in getting you to a better place in LIFE. Life is a gift. Please do not waste it.

dancinglady 09-30-2015 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopeless (Post 1174648)
Dancing Lady,

I forgot to ask. Why the name dancing lady? Do you like dance? Were you a dancer? Do you watch "Dancing with the Stars" on TV?

Maybe you could start there. Watch something you enjoy to take your mind off your pain.

Remember, life is precious. My neighbor just lost her life this morning and wanted nothing more than to be here longer. She was given no choice. Her time had come. Everyone is devastated. Please do not cause that pain for your loved ones.

If you wish to share more about yourself, maybe we will understand better, and can be more supportive and helpful in getting you to a better place in LIFE. Life is a gift. Please do not waste it.

These are long posts when I get to a computer I will respond.

Hopeless 09-30-2015 07:28 PM

Looking forward to hearing from you when you have the time and facility.

Thanks for your post.

dancinglady 10-01-2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hopeless (Post 1174648)
Dancing Lady,

I forgot to ask. Why the name dancing lady? Do you like dance? Were you a dancer? Do you watch "Dancing with the Stars" on TV?

Maybe you could start there. Watch something you enjoy to take your mind off your pain.

Remember, life is precious. My neighbor just lost her life this morning and wanted nothing more than to be here longer. She was given no choice. Her time had come. Everyone is devastated. Please do not cause that pain for your loved ones.

If you wish to share more about yourself, maybe we will understand better, and can be more supportive and helpful in getting you to a better place in LIFE. Life is a gift. Please do not waste it.

I will answer each question individually. I was a dancer, yes I did like to dance. I no longer can dance. No I do not watch Dancing with the stars it is too depressing. Life is not precious. Sorry about your neighbor but if they wanted to die, they received their wish. I do not have loved ones that would not be joyful if I were dead. There would be no more helping me and they would be happy. Life in my case was and has not been a gift. I have had a horrible tragedy after tragedy life. I was just turned down for a promotion again. I have never ever gone above a "worker bee" type of job eventhough I have three college degrees. That should answer this post.

EnglishDave 10-01-2015 05:21 PM

Dancinglady,

With the information in my Post, above and my PM, regarding the fact that the option of Physician Assistance is closed to you, does that not show you that your other options to continue fighting are valid.

Dave.

dancinglady 10-01-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishDave (Post 1174882)
Dancinglady,

With the information in my Post, above and my PM, regarding the fact that the option of Physician Assistance is closed to you, does that not show you that your other options to continue fighting are valid.

Dave.



Why is it closed to me. I have more problems that PN.

katmae 10-01-2015 06:18 PM

dancing lady
 
I know I may not have the problems that you have but I do understand how your friends and family will feel if you do what you plan to do you think they would be glad and happy if you were gone but you could not be more wrong it will only make things harder then they are now they will wonder the rest of their lives what more they could have said or done to make you feel better you have a lot of people that care about you :grouphug:

dancinglady 10-01-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by katmae (Post 1174892)
I know I may not have the problems that you have but I do understand how your friends and family will feel if you do what you plan to do you think they would be glad and happy if you were gone but you could not be more wrong it will only make things harder then they are now they will wonder the rest of their lives what more they could have said or done to make you feel better you have a lot of people that care about you :grouphug:


I wish you knew more about my family. You would not be applying so much guilt onto me if you knew. I am not at liberty to explain everything cuz this is the World Wide Web.


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