Hi all!

Has anyone tried Advanced Biostructural Correction?

http://www.meningealrelease.com/

http://www.abcmiracles.com/

It's supposed to correct bad posture -which i think many of us suffer from.

I know we are all looking for a miracle cure but after not being able to find anything about the creator of this technique on this website, I did a quick search of the Internet. Apparently he had his chiropractic license revoked as well as some other violations. While his technique may very well work or at least help, please do some research before deciding to spend your money.

I'm partial to getting DVDs and books from Amazon so I can leverage reviews to have a better chance of getting something worth my time and money. That's how I found these, which I can recommend after trying them:

* Posture, Get It Straight! Two Disc Set by Janice Novak

* Fixing You: Neck Pain & Headaches by Rick Olderman

* Pain Free at Your PC by Pete Egoscue

Some others that are well reviewed, but that I haven't cracked yet:

* The New Rules of Posture by Mary Bond

* Why Does Working @ My Computer Hurt So Much?

Also, if you have droopy shoulders and/or forward head, I recommend the "Brugger Relief Position" several times a day, which you can look up on the web and youtube.

HTH

You're right, we're all looking for a miracle cure, I just thought the Advanced Biostructural Correction seemed interesting. I also googled the creator of this technique, and seems that you're right.

If I end up trying this, I'll definitely follow up on this post. But I would still like to hear from anyone who has tried this technique.

thanks for all the book recommendations Chroma, it's sometimes hard to find a book which isnt made by some quack who tries to make money

Hi,

I am Dr. Jutkowitz and I can tell you that those pictures of people being upright with no physical effort after treatment with Advanced BioStructural Correction™ are exactly what they purport to be with no effort by the patients and no retouching.

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Hi Dr. Jutkowitz (If you're the real one) - those pictures, are they taken after one treatment or does it take several treatments to get those results?

Have you ever had a patient with thoracic outlet syndrome, who has been helped by this technique?

Thanks

Those pictures are mostly before and after the first treatment -- the ones with people in the same clothing. However, that does not mean that the changes are the ones needed to handle any particular symptom and the changes get even better over time.

Plenty of people with TOS have been helped and the problems eliminated by me personally and by practitioners using ABC™, virtually all of them.

Keep in mind that TOS is not a single cause syndrome so the time to correct what is causing it can be short or a bit longer but usually there is change starting day one.

By the way Chroma, the references you note all talk about muscular effort to change how your body is at a given moment. That does not change your posture but just temporarily changes your configuration. ABC™ corrects the structure so your body stays upright all by itself.

The differences are improvements in vital capacity and heart function that are permanent rather than just a change in appearance with little to no change in anything else.

And yes, I am the real Dr. Jutkowitz.

I disagree that they are strictly muscular effort. My fav exercise from Egoscue's books is the "static back" which is not an exercise at all, but a position in which gravity does the work of lining up the hips, shoulder and head, as well as elongating the spine. In fact, the vertebra are pulled in the direction that seems advocated by ABC materials I've been looking at. That's not to say that ABC doesn't offer something additional over those exercises, whether that's a more thorough effect, or faster course of treatment. I haven't tried it, so I wouldn't know.

Regarding my message about books and DVDs from Amazon, I wonder if some might interpret it as my primary advice for dealing with TOS and/or interpret it as "in place of" seeing a practitioner of some sort, rather than "complementary". I definitely use those resources as complementary. I'm currently seeing a chiro who does myofascial release and then adjustments with "the activator" tool. I'm happy with the results.

I was not happy with the first chiro I saw, whose treatments were the old school "quick-crack-crack-scoop-crack" and you're done method. Didn't work for me.

I think there is fundamental value in seeing a practitioner of some sort (whether DC, PT, MD, etc.) to leverage their expertise and their outside perspective. The trick is to find one that is good and affordable.

So others know, the Static Back position is lying flat on your back with your hips at 90 degrees and the legs knee bent at 90 degrees with the lower leg (calf) supported on a hassock or box.
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Not to be contentious -- take a look at what that position actually does. The Egoscue Method book and the web site both have: "This exercise creates horizontal load between shoulder and pelvis, which contributes to thoracic extension by engaging the stabilizers and flexors of the hip."

That sounds wonderful and implies moving the bones in the backward direction noted as needed by ABC™. The problems come when one actually notes what is occurring.

First, the flexion of the hips causes a reversal of the normal and needed lumbar lordosis. That reversal leads to reversal and FLEXION of the thoracic spine rather than the extension noted. Further, besides that being reversed and forcing the thoracic spine into flexion laying on your back forces the normally backward curving thoracic spine flat moving the bones FORWARD into FLEXION rather than extension as they say.

This is another one of those "good ideas" which do not do what someone says but the opposite.

The reason the audio explaining it on the web site ends stating that "...sometimes it can actually weaken you if you rely on it all the time." Is not the reason they state but the fact that it reverses all the normal and needed front-to-back curves of the spinal column leaving the body in a somewhat decompensated and precarious position at the end of the exercise.

Again, this is not because I say so or some "idea" or an opinion. This is just an objective physical observation of the position of the body anyone and everyone can make which is the opposite of what they are saying.

Be careful to make sure that what you are being told actually matches up with what is physically happening.

Again, this is not my opinion. Anyone can easily observe and experience doing this exercise that the thoracic spine (midback), which is normally supposed to curve backward, is pushed FORWARD by the floor reducing the normal and needed curve of the spinal column and causing adverse compensating changes in other parts of the spinal column and pelvis, which is the opposite of what they are saying in the written explanation.

It might feel good for some because it will temporarily reduce the amount of mechanical stress on one area by worsening the condition and forcing the stress to some other area. This gives the apparentcy an improvement however, it is not an improvement just a change and almost always for the worse. The end result will either be a return to the previous configuration with its attendant symptoms and or pains or a change to something worse mechanically which may result in immediate or later symptoms that are different.

Eh, I'm having trouble accepting your critique of Static Back for various reasons:

-- I won't deny that the floor flattens my thoracic spine for a short period of time, but there are lots of exercises that put your body in a non-natural position for a short time. Examples include Brugger relief pose, sternal positional Swiss ball release, all yoga poses (hehe), pull ups, etc. You would never do any of those for very long. You could analyze the details of any of them and say "well that's not natural" and "it stresses parts of your body". Is that not true for most exercises?

-- I feel my spine elongate when I do static back for 10 mins. I have to make an adjustment part way through as a result.

-- The part about it weakening you if you overuse it is interesting, but Egoscue includes a combination of exercises including the challenging Air Bench.

-- Last, but not least, I've been getting good results regardless of this or that explanation.