Fasting or dieting

chroma · 02-13-2012, 06:10 PM

Yeah, I'm not overweight either, but feel that my upper traps are too thick in proportion to the neighboring structures. I was thinking more in terms of getting them to atrophy.

chroma · 02-13-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hellothere

All the physios and stuff say it can be corrected over time, reality is it really cant be.. physio appointments, pain killers and muscle relaxants until i drop .. or hopefully they can come up with some awesome new technology that can help us, but i doubt that too.

Yes, I have settled into that pattern as well: physio, chiro, muscle relaxants and self care. My pain isn't as bad as many on here so I'm able to hang with it and use it as my signal to rest or change positions.

I echo your sentiment that we need something more, but doubt that anything will be done. I never hear anything about interesting TOS research other than surgeons tweaking their surgical approach.

hellothere · 02-14-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chroma

Yes, I have settled into that pattern as well: physio, chiro, muscle relaxants and self care. My pain isn't as bad as many on here so I'm able to hang with it and use it as my signal to rest or change positions.

I echo your sentiment that we need something more, but doubt that anything will be done. I never hear anything about interesting TOS research other than surgeons tweaking their surgical approach.

Do you get pains in the neck muscles still?

chroma · 02-14-2012, 08:46 AM

Not in the neck itself anymore. My pains are:
-- horizontal line underneath collar bone
-- border between chest and shoulder
-- border between upper trap and neck
-- muscles on left side of thoracic spine
-- sternum where ribs connect
-- sternum in the center
on some occasions:
-- outside of upper arm
-- shoulder blade
-- ear, both inner and outer

I don't get all of these at once, but I usually get some every day.

My neck does get tight still.

All left side which is my TOS side. Something is amiss there!

mspennyloafer · 02-14-2012, 12:27 PM

my tos is on my left side too, wtf

if im getting bad spasms it starts at the left and then spreads to the right tho which is creepy. but all over my pt files it says my left rib is elevated, left shoulder elevated. etc etc.

chroma · 02-14-2012, 05:35 PM

Yeah my left ribs always become elevated. The PT and chiro take turns shoving them down. Feels better after they do, but it comes back in a few days.

mspennyloafer · 02-14-2012, 06:08 PM

my ribs are rotated too. my right ribcage side comes foreward more

i'm wondering if my left side is elevated due to something..not obvious, like the way i walk or hips or my right side being too weak. or maybe just my shoulder being elevated

and maybe my right ribs are rotated from being right handed and on the comp too much ugh ugh

agabor · 03-05-2012, 10:17 PM

I'm trying a modified Weight Watchers online program (self-tailored based on what I can do with TOS). Maybe that will help? I wouldn't recommend fasting b/c (from my personal experience) it can make pain worse and lead to pain-induced binging later (similar to emotional overeating). But that's just what happens to me, others are probably different.

Limoges · 03-05-2012, 11:30 PM

I know that during both my pregnancies my TOS pain was significantly worse. Certainly the extra swelling and weight played into that. I believe you get something like 50% more blood during pregnancy, so it stands to reason that would affect pain levels.

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