Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Thoracic Outlet Syndrome/Brachial Plexopathy. In Memory Of DeAnne Marie.


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View Poll Results: What type of doctors have you been referred to for TOS?-or Which Diagnosed?
Sports Medicine 5 23.81%
Sports Medicine
5 23.81%
Vascular 15 71.43%
Vascular
15 71.43%
Neurologist 11 52.38%
Neurologist
11 52.38%
Orthopedic 4 19.05%
Orthopedic
4 19.05%
Cardiothoracic 4 19.05%
Cardiothoracic
4 19.05%
General Surgery 3 14.29%
General Surgery
3 14.29%
Chiropractor 6 28.57%
Chiropractor
6 28.57%
Cardiologist 1 4.76%
Cardiologist
1 4.76%
Shoulder Surgeon 4 19.05%
Shoulder Surgeon
4 19.05%
Accupuncture 6 28.57%
Accupuncture
6 28.57%
Other---? please email me 3 14.29%
Other---? please email me
3 14.29%
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:41 AM #1
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Hi, Kerry! I was diagnosed by a thoracic surgeon. I'm going to have surgery soon and hope to have as positive an outcome as you've had. Best of luck in your recovery!
Hello, I am happy to hear that you received a diagnosis as that sometimes can be the hardest part with TOS; a Thoracic surgeon sounds like exactly what you need! I am very happy for you! Ill keep you in my thoughts, I am sure that the surgery will go great for you. Prior to my surgery, I once read from someone that immediately once they woke up in recovery after their rib resection, they felt immediate substantial relief. That was difficult for me to believe because I was nervous about the surgery and all. However, I found that statement to be entirely correct! (Although I did end up with a slight complication from the surgery, a pneumothorax, which was completely easily fixed...)-after the decompression and scalenectomy I could feel the relief! I could tell that there wasnt the compression that I had been feeling for yrs causing pain anymore. It was amazing to me that something that had caused so much pain for so many yrs could be fixed and given such relief with just one procedure and so short after!

My point being, I dont know if you have already had your surgery, but if you havent-please take peace and solice knowing that when you wake up you will feel like a new person and will feel so much better as if just with a snap of your fingers! I do hope that your surgery goes great! Please let me know how it goes if you dont mind. As well, if you have any questions I am here. Feel free to contact me either here or via yahoo messenger.

Take care,
Kerry
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Hello, I am happy to hear that you received a diagnosis as that sometimes can be the hardest part with TOS; a Thoracic surgeon sounds like exactly what you need! I am very happy for you! Ill keep you in my thoughts, I am sure that the surgery will go great for you. Prior to my surgery, I once read from someone that immediately once they woke up in recovery after their rib resection, they felt immediate substantial relief. That was difficult for me to believe because I was nervous about the surgery and all. However, I found that statement to be entirely correct! (Although I did end up with a slight complication from the surgery, a pneumothorax, which was completely easily fixed...)-after the decompression and scalenectomy I could feel the relief! I could tell that there wasnt the compression that I had been feeling for yrs causing pain anymore. It was amazing to me that something that had caused so much pain for so many yrs could be fixed and given such relief with just one procedure and so short after!

My point being, I dont know if you have already had your surgery, but if you havent-please take peace and solice knowing that when you wake up you will feel like a new person and will feel so much better as if just with a snap of your fingers! I do hope that your surgery goes great! Please let me know how it goes if you dont mind. As well, if you have any questions I am here. Feel free to contact me either here or via yahoo messenger.

Take care,
Kerry

Thank you so much for your kind words, Kerry. I have surgery in a few weeks, so I'll keep everyone posted. The surgeon said that most people feel as though something is different in recovery. Of course there's significant pain initially, but I'm anxious to get this done and behind me! Thank you again.
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Thank you so much for your kind words, Kerry. I have surgery in a few weeks, so I'll keep everyone posted. The surgeon said that most people feel as though something is different in recovery. Of course there's significant pain initially, but I'm anxious to get this done and behind me! Thank you again.
I did have significant pain initially however not anywhere around my incision, but outside my ribcage because of punctured lung complication, it took almost 2 days of my complaining and me losing over 2/3's of my blood for them to believe that I was really in alot of pain and something was wrong. However, because of all the nerves that are surrounding the surgical area, my incision area was completely numb along with 4 other places on my arm and back of shoulder, so it was a few days for me before I felt the pain from surgery. But, everyone has different experiences. But for me, just about right after surgery the pain was so much better, range of motion better (3 days after surgery I could shower/wash my hair with far less pain after as opposed to prior), most of my symptoms and things that would generally aggrivate the pain pre-surgery were much less severe just days after. As long as everything goes well during your surgery which I am sure it will, you will feel much better after.

It isnt necessarily some magical recovery, it took me 2-3 months before I could begin PT and because as the numbness wore off the pain became stronger, also nerve regeneration is no cup of tea so Id def ask your surgeon about what to expext with that because it caught me by surprise and I had to call my surgeon...

Also, because you have had the symptoms for 4 yrs, 1 yr longer than myself before surgical help, physical therapy takes patience (I am not a patient person, lol). I basically havent had any use of my left arm for the entire 3 yrs so I had alot of atrophying in my hand up to my shoulder; so, its as if I have a new appendage that I have to rebuild the muscles and learn how to use again.

My advice, hoping it all goes great for you-be greatful for all the relief you feel (during rough times, just remember how bad the pain was pre-surgery), take everything in stride, nerves take a while to heal, make sure to find a great physical therapist that you trust (if possible, find one with experience helping pts after TOS surgery, it is rare...I changed my pt place after 6 wks because it didnt feel as if it was helping at all), and just do your best to get your life on track! (I have been on disability for over 2 yrs now and consequently lost my job, I have to work hard to see what my best is going to turn out to be and then work on finding a job once my pain is tolerable or perhaps even gone!

I wish you the best in your surgery, I am very happy for you that you finally found a surgeon who can help you. Patients dealing with the pain of thoracic outlet arent just dealing with physical pain but so much more, it is something that very few ppl know about, therefore it is very hard for ppl to sympathize because they have no way of knowing what we are going through, i mean half the medical community even fails to believe it exists so where does that leave the rest of the population. I have just always told my family and friends that, "I dont expect them to understand what I am going through, just for them to give me love and support to help me through this time." That way I dont get let down etc. Ok, well this is longer than expected. I suppose I just remember all of the questions I had prior to surgery, being scared and nervous, scouring the internet to find out all I could...I guess I am just trying to help protect you from the fears that come from the unknown and surgery, I can only do so much. If you do have any questions in the next few wks or after feel free to ask, I think it helps me to talk about it as well since like I said, noone really "gets it".

Otherwise, best of luck to you for your surgery! I hope you wake up feeling a great deal of relief immediately! After 4 years you deserve it.

Take care,

Kerry

O! I just read your post again....I just realized I didnt tell you what I was planning to write about in the first place! oops. You said that your surgeon stated that, "ppl wake up feeling as if something is different". That could either be the numbness, I still have quite a bit of that 5 months after surgery but its not a big deal. Maybe my "feeling different" was just the feeling of less pain. I dont necessarily feel as if I am missing a rib at all, if I didnt know that it was removed or that I had the surgery I really wouldnt know. One of the issues that for some reason I didnt notice until about 2 months after surgery is (my TOS was on the left, so I had my left scalene muscle and left 1st rib removed) if I am laying on my right side, whether watching TV or trying to sleep on that side, if I let my left arm hang in front of me, for some reason it feels as if it is missing some type of support. I either have to have my left arm rest upon my side or fluff up a pillow and have my arm rest on there. I had to have alot more of my posterior (in the back/rotator cuff area) scalene muscle removed than most tos pts do, unsure why-so that may be just a prob that me personally will have. if I let my arm hang, it feels like there is no support but that it needs support (whereas I can let my right arm hang however and there are obviously no issues) but I am struggling in PT to strengthen the back of my shoulder so that may be why I feel "as if something is different" just because my arm isnt that strong yet and if it hangs in any capacity it doesnt feel "right" yet. I did ask my surgeon if I would be able to tell if I was missing a rib and he said, nope. The first rib isnt structurally nec for anything except muscles i think. So I will be interested to hear how you feel after surgery and as you are healing, as well as if you feel as if something is "different" when you wake up in post-op.

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I did have significant pain initially however not anywhere around my incision, but outside my ribcage because of punctured lung complication, it took almost 2 days of my complaining and me losing over 2/3's of my blood for them to believe that I was really in alot of pain and something was wrong. However, because of all the nerves that are surrounding the surgical area, my incision area was completely numb along with 4 other places on my arm and back of shoulder, so it was a few days for me before I felt the pain from surgery. But, everyone has different experiences. But for me, just about right after surgery the pain was so much better, range of motion better (3 days after surgery I could shower/wash my hair with far less pain after as opposed to prior), most of my symptoms and things that would generally aggrivate the pain pre-surgery were much less severe just days after. As long as everything goes well during your surgery which I am sure it will, you will feel much better after.

It isnt necessarily some magical recovery, it took me 2-3 months before I could begin PT and because as the numbness wore off the pain became stronger, also nerve regeneration is no cup of tea so Id def ask your surgeon about what to expext with that because it caught me by surprise and I had to call my surgeon...

Also, because you have had the symptoms for 4 yrs, 1 yr longer than myself before surgical help, physical therapy takes patience (I am not a patient person, lol). I basically havent had any use of my left arm for the entire 3 yrs so I had alot of atrophying in my hand up to my shoulder; so, its as if I have a new appendage that I have to rebuild the muscles and learn how to use again.

My advice, hoping it all goes great for you-be greatful for all the relief you feel (during rough times, just remember how bad the pain was pre-surgery), take everything in stride, nerves take a while to heal, make sure to find a great physical therapist that you trust (if possible, find one with experience helping pts after TOS surgery, it is rare...I changed my pt place after 6 wks because it didnt feel as if it was helping at all), and just do your best to get your life on track! (I have been on disability for over 2 yrs now and consequently lost my job, I have to work hard to see what my best is going to turn out to be and then work on finding a job once my pain is tolerable or perhaps even gone!

I wish you the best in your surgery, I am very happy for you that you finally found a surgeon who can help you. Patients dealing with the pain of thoracic outlet arent just dealing with physical pain but so much more, it is something that very few ppl know about, therefore it is very hard for ppl to sympathize because they have no way of knowing what we are going through, i mean half the medical community even fails to believe it exists so where does that leave the rest of the population. I have just always told my family and friends that, "I dont expect them to understand what I am going through, just for them to give me love and support to help me through this time." That way I dont get let down etc. Ok, well this is longer than expected. I suppose I just remember all of the questions I had prior to surgery, being scared and nervous, scouring the internet to find out all I could...I guess I am just trying to help protect you from the fears that come from the unknown and surgery, I can only do so much. If you do have any questions in the next few wks or after feel free to ask, I think it helps me to talk about it as well since like I said, noone really "gets it".

Otherwise, best of luck to you for your surgery! I hope you wake up feeling a great deal of relief immediately! After 4 years you deserve it.

Take care,

Kerry

O! I just read your post again....I just realized I didnt tell you what I was planning to write about in the first place! oops. You said that your surgeon stated that, "ppl wake up feeling as if something is different". That could either be the numbness, I still have quite a bit of that 5 months after surgery but its not a big deal. Maybe my "feeling different" was just the feeling of less pain. I dont necessarily feel as if I am missing a rib at all, if I didnt know that it was removed or that I had the surgery I really wouldnt know. One of the issues that for some reason I didnt notice until about 2 months after surgery is (my TOS was on the left, so I had my left scalene muscle and left 1st rib removed) if I am laying on my right side, whether watching TV or trying to sleep on that side, if I let my left arm hang in front of me, for some reason it feels as if it is missing some type of support. I either have to have my left arm rest upon my side or fluff up a pillow and have my arm rest on there. I had to have alot more of my posterior (in the back/rotator cuff area) scalene muscle removed than most tos pts do, unsure why-so that may be just a prob that me personally will have. if I let my arm hang, it feels like there is no support but that it needs support (whereas I can let my right arm hang however and there are obviously no issues) but I am struggling in PT to strengthen the back of my shoulder so that may be why I feel "as if something is different" just because my arm isnt that strong yet and if it hangs in any capacity it doesnt feel "right" yet. I did ask my surgeon if I would be able to tell if I was missing a rib and he said, nope. The first rib isnt structurally nec for anything except muscles i think. So I will be interested to hear how you feel after surgery and as you are healing, as well as if you feel as if something is "different" when you wake up in post-op.

Later
K

I've actually been dealing with pain, numbness, muscle spasms, etc. for close to thirty years. I'm very much hoping this gives me some relief.
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