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I got an email back from Dr James Stoxen but i am not able to find any review or any comments about him anywhere. Dr Stoxen been asked to work for over 130 of the tours of today’s top top celebrity entertainers. The problem is i am not able to find any review from other than celebrity. Even then there is not much review. If you take a look on his web site he is the man. The email i got make lots of sense and looks like he really know what he is talking about but he sounds a bit too much like the miracle Dr but ... He is selling a strong vibrational massage unit I really dont like when he is saying that you can buy this same incredibly strong vibrational massage unit from me and do the treatment yourself`` Sounds like a real use car seller but hopefully i am wrong. If anyone has any info about him please post it here. Here is the email i got from him.Thank you!!
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There are some older posts mentioning Stoxen, you can use the search link in my siggy line to find posts.

On the massage thing- massage assist that is on his website.. most of the places those w/TOS need massaged is our upper backs and other hard to reach areas..plus the holding and reaching needed to use the massager could send us into spasms..


I doubt a single "tool" like that can "fix" TOS all by itself.
Often we do need an expert of some sort to do the hands on therapy..at least at first.

You should be able to find an expert & knowledgeable chiropractor, bodyworker or physical therapist in your area or a nearby large city.
It may take many phone calls, and web searches and asking questions , but they are out there.
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Ok thank you but there is not much review about him and that's what i am looking for. Thank you much

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Ok thank you but there is not much review about him and that's what i am looking for. Thank you much

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I've heard of him but I don't recall reading any posts from anyone who's actually seen him in person.
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Ok thank you. I don't really trust him but... He is on Facebook, talking about is personal life and there is a few other weird thing about him but i don't want to make any judgement on him or his abilities. Hopefully i am gonna get some review.

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Ok thank you. I don't really trust him but... He is on Facebook, talking about is personal life and there is a few other weird thing about him but i don't want to make any judgement on him or his abilities. Hopefully i am gonna get some review.

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I think a few other people were kind of skeptical about some of the things he says as well.
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I got an email back from Dr James Stoxen but i am not able to find any review or any comments about him anywhere. Dr Stoxen been asked to work for over 130 of the tours of today’s top top celebrity entertainers. The problem is i am not able to find any review from other than celebrity. Even then there is not much review. If you take a look on his web site he is the man. The email i got make lots of sense and looks like he really know what he is talking about but he sounds a bit too much like the miracle Dr but ... He is selling a strong vibrational massage unit I really dont like when he is saying that you can buy this same incredibly strong vibrational massage unit from me and do the treatment yourself`` Sounds like a real use car seller but hopefully i am wrong. If anyone has any info about him please post it here. Here is the email i got from him.Thank you!!
You can find @drewanderson's perspective on Stoxen in this thread, starting with message #4:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread182773.html

Unlike the other comments about Stoxen on this board, including my own, Drew's comments are unique in that he has actually seen Stoxen.

Now for my own comments because we all like to talk about this guy:

I'm not as down on Stoxen as the other people here who have also not seen him.

First of all, he gets a lot of things right. Like the importance of the scalenes, including how they pull the first rib up and how important it is to get rid of spasms in them. He talks about strengthening certain muscles for the purpose of elevating the shoulder girdle, but only after muscle spasms are cleared out. He also says it takes a lot of hours of therapy to clear out muscle spasms.

I find there is more to like than dislike in what he says. You can see comments I made earlier this year at http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post980274-22.html

Regarding Coop42's comments about all the years it takes, with all due respect, Coop has a lot more going on that just TOS. He talks about not being able to squat, having to dig into his thighs to increase mobility, having a valve replaced, being immobile for years, etc. Coop's doing a lot of great stuff, but I don't think he's a model for classic TOS at this point.

I've made a lot of progress the past few years and feel like I'm mostly down to my scalenes and SCM as being major problems. (I used to have other things like poor posture, pec minor issues, drooped shoulder and collar bone, compressed spine, etc.). I also have the supraclavicular edema he references. So I feel like I would be a good candidate to try him out. If I was local to Chicago, I would have done so already.

One thing that did bother me and has put me off on seeing him is "reverting". What happens if he fixes me up, I go back home (long distance) and then revert? eg, my scalenes go hypertonic again. But you're saying he is now selling the vibrating massage unit to patients so they can self treat. That sounds awesome!

What's left then from my perspective:
-- Travel
-- Chicago winters suck
-- Can I handle multiple hours of treatment per day?

I think I'll wait til spring. Until then, I have some more things to try on my own to keep me busy.
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Thanks for the infos Chroma.`

I agree with all your comments. Take a look on your inbox, i will send you something about him. I am doing a kind of physio which it call RPG. She mostly work on my body posture and more important my breathing exercises. She think it's not time to do any stretching for now because i am not ready to do it. She want me to get a perfect posture from my feet to my head, pull down my ribs then eventually im gonna be ready to do stretching but slowly and very gentle stretching. I tried pretty much any kind of therapy and its always the same, making my situation worse. She is the only one to work on that way and she really care at me. For 90$ she spend 50 to 70 minutes with me. How much is chiro, P.T or anything like that in the States and how long are the sessions? Here Chiro are about 5 minutes, some chiro 10 minutes, P.T is may ba max 30 minutes and they think on totally different way.

Anyway I will skype with Dr. Stoxen to know exactly what he is thinking about my situation and more important about his method. There is no doubt about 1 point, he know T.O.S really well and that make me a bit more confidant about going to Chicago to see if it can make a difference but i have to find more review of him. I am on same situation than you which mean i am at 650 milles from his office. By the way i just notice that but is vibrating massage unit was release only 6 weeks ago so that's probably why i found just 1 review of it. It's pretty big unit and seems like industrial quality. You can see it on his web site and if you want to see a demo send him an email and he is gonna send you a quick video. Hope to get more comments or review of him.
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Thanks for the infos Chroma.`

I agree with all your comments. Take a look on your inbox, i will send you something about him. I am doing a kind of physio which it call RPG. She mostly work on my body posture and more important my breathing exercises. She think it's not time to do any stretching for now because i am not ready to do it. She want me to get a perfect posture from my feet to my head, pull down my ribs then eventually im gonna be ready to do stretching but slowly and very gentle stretching. I tried pretty much any kind of therapy and its always the same, making my situation worse. She is the only one to work on that way and she really care at me. For 90$ she spend 50 to 70 minutes with me. How much is chiro, P.T or anything like that in the States and how long are the sessions? Here Chiro are about 5 minutes, some chiro 10 minutes, P.T is may ba max 30 minutes and they think on totally different way.
Thanks for your response. I would definitely see an RPG person if they were in my area, but they are not. I have done the Egoscue protocol before which emphasizes posture and it was helpful. I also use the iPosture monitoring device and highly recommend it.

Posture improvements definitely help.

Regarding your questions: Here in the states, chiros and PTs vary immensely. One chiro charged $45 for 15 mins of adjustments with no soft tissue work. I didn't stay there very long. Another chiro charged $60 for 30 mins where the first 15-20 was all soft tissue work and the other 10-15 was adjustments. I saw him on a regular basis until I moved.

PTs are a bit more expensive than chiros here and usually require a referral from an MD. Both PTs I saw emphasized soft tissue work and had already been seen and recommended by people with TOS. Still, they didn't go all the way with fixing my scalenes which I think is hugely important and my largest remaining problem.
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Hi Nellyzen,

Yes at first i had great improvement with P.T but be careful because it's different for everyone. I came back to 90% with P.T. but i did lots of mistake after so i am back -10% !! Now P.T make me worse. As what i know T.O.S are so different for every person. Sitting on the couch is probably on of the worse thing to do for many reason. Take a look in your inbox, i will send you something about that. I think we are all scared here but you have to try your best to find solutions. There is lots of tools to help us but it`s freaking hard to find the right one. I've tried so much different treatment and i had surgery as well but no chances till now. tomorrow is another day and i will keep working to find a solution with my situation. Look to see if there is one RPG in your area, they gonna work on your posture and it could help. It's probably the most important point even if you find a solution for your T.O.S.
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