[ocgirl]

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[tshadow]

Thanks for posting this OCgirl.

This is a strange one - it's 1995, so I'm curious what the status is on those 118 patients in the 11 years since, ya know? I wish or wonder if they have a f/u on that? And what does the phrase "excellent" mean to the docs - I couldn't find out how to see the whole article, my links weren't working currently...

Also, note it says (I think) that in 20 years they'd done the 118 patients, some with a re-do, but still, that was only about 5.9 (bad est.) surgeries per year. And what is that, like Dr. Annest's daily amount? haha, over exaggeration there, but those docs in Denver really do so many surgeries per week, I wish we could get some f/u and figures from them. In fact, I still wish we could get some national figures on how many TOSers are out there, how many from computers, vs. car accidents, or like OCgirl - the surgical positioning or Beth's reaction to the immunization...I would really like some firm figures, but then, I guess they still haven't given the firm figures for even MS yet, according to MS sufferers.

OCgirl, how did you interpret this one?

Anyways, interesting post. Thanks, I love reading any new med article we TOSers can dig up.

[beth]

Tam,

That's yeah, basically 6 surgeries a year - BUT, there's 7 surgeons!! So over 20 years they average less than one TOS surgery a yr each??? Does anyone want to go to Nebraska?? I DON'T think so!!!

Surprised their stats look this good actually.

And yes, is that good to excellent based on pain and sx, or return to work and hobbies or just what??

Most of these seem to mean so little when you really break it down.Like, "Okay, it's time to publish another paper, what shall we do it on this time? What do we have stats for that we haven't used already?"

Yup, cynical I know. Just how I'm feeling lately.

[gibbrn]

Hiya,

not so sure about such high results...and only P value for some and not all results!!! so I would have to read the entire thing! Beware the surgeon who says that it is all good!!! Results were told to me that good results were never guaranteed. 80% results were the best told to me...but given that I had some cervical disc compression he could not guarantee me that amount of success or that it was tos!! so beware!

love and hugs,
Victoria

[johannakat]

call me clueless, but I don't see the link to the study, did we take it down for some reason?

[mtnmom]

Yeah, where did it go? Wanted to read how 'long term' this study really was.