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Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome For traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post concussion syndrome (PCS). |
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yep, Mark you are completely correct. I was very fortunate, much more so than most, to be referred to a neurologist on the first try who at least knows what i'm dealing with. I also take for granted being in a good sized city where there are several choices. I'm glad that you edited my suggestion there.
There are so many helpful sections in the TBI guide, one in particular was about how to prepare for dr. visits. This has helped me to get what i need out of the appointments. |
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Wow- informative post by PCSLearner. Thanks for that.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Brain patch (04-13-2013), Debbi (02-09-2016) |
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Mark, great post.
I am dealing with hubby's medical info and you are so right on the nose with your advice, you need a great big THANK YOU FOR SHARING award!!! ![]() QUOTE=Mark in Idaho;723686]I take exception to Marilee's recommendation of getting to a neurologist. While this may sound like the logical thing to do, Marilee was very fortunate to find a neurologist who has some level of understanding of Post Concussion Syndrome. I have been seen by many neurologists. Only 2 out of at least 12 or 15 had a decent understanding of concussion. The wrong neurologist can start a medical record that can follow your quest for help and get in the way of future help. The riskiest neurologist in my opinion, is the one who works in a large multi-specialty group practice or HMO. I am talking of the clinics of group that share access to medical records. If the family practice and ob/gyn and neurologist, etc. all have access to your complete records, the wrong label or diagnosis can block you access to further care. In my case, one doctor diagnosed my as somatoform disorder. This can mean three different things. His symptoms are unexplainable, his symptoms are likely made up (psycho-somatic or hypochondriac) or we recognize his symptoms but can not reach a definitive diagnosis. The first two can leave you in limbo land or worse. The last can hopefully leave a chance at further diagnostic work. After one doctor in my HMO diagnosed me as somatoform, my access to further help shut down. I spent my own money to get further diagnostic work but even then, my health care company (HMO) refused to even consider my private doctor's diagnosis. So, if your are going to see a neurologist, get a referral to a neuro who has a true understanding of concussion. This will be a difficult but important task. If litigation is involved, do not do this wiithout the advice of your attorney. My recommendation for early on is to learn to recognize your symptoms. The TBI Guide is a good startat helping you understand them. Telling a doctor that you don't feel right or feel dizzy or confused is too subjective. If you can better define the specific symptoms (but not in medical terms), the doctors can put a better picture together. Using medical terms creates a risk of being rejected by doctors who do not like patients doing self-diagnosis. The modern term for this is cyber-chondriac. Instead, say: I get stuck trying to find a simple word. I might know what I want to say but can't get the word to my lips. This has never happened to me before as often as it happens now. The bright lights overwhelm me. The voice of multiple people talking at the same time causes me to become disoriented. If I try to watch TV, I can not pick out the dialogue from the common noises in the house like the heater fan, etc. Try to define any specific situations where your symptoms get worse. Morning, at the mall, after trying to read, etc. It also helps if you can bring a family member with you to explain what they observe. They can also take notes for later reference. And, DO NOT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE WHINING or grumbling. A journal can help take the whine out of your presentation of symptoms to the doctor.[/QUOTE]
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Back to the original idea of the thread (things you wish that you'd known, which might possibly help others who have just had a concussion):
I am now taking pregabalin (Lyrica) - 100 mg a mealtimes (three times a day) and 150 mg before bed. That seems to work well and I am feeling a lot better on it, mainly greatly reduced pain. I wish that I had been prescribed more medication initially. Of course, you can't just get whatever you want over the counter. You have to rely on the doctors and someone newly concussed isn't in the best place to know what to ask for. However, I do think that if I had started taking something earlier then it might have been easier to get through a really horrible period and cope with a lot of pain. You have to get to know what works for you, how much to take etc.. That all takes time; years in my case. I haven't found much relief from over-the-counter medication, ibuprofen, aspirin, acetaminophen (paracetamol) etc.. I have found that only daily medication for a period had any effect. Just taking a couple of aspirin seems to do nothing at all. There can be a problem regarding over-use and side-effects. With amitriptyline I found that there were some side-effects but once you have been on it for a period of time it is really difficult to come off. I have had to cut down by 2.5 mg at a time and then stay on the new dose for a while. I have reached a dose of only 2.5 mg a day now, but that is after a year of gradually reducing the dose. I think that this drug is known for this difficulty, so I would recommend consulting a doctor before reducing the dose. It is a real drag being dependent on medication but for me it is worth it for the beneficial effects of the drugs, pregabalin for me (I think that the effects should be very similar to that of gabapentin, which I have not tried, because the two drugs have the same target). Somebody else might do better with a different drug. I hope that something works for you. CS So,
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2007 rear end collision at high speed on the motorway; PCS - main problems are pain in the head and fatigue; tried pregabalin,amitriptyline and HBOT possibly with some slight success; also tried LENS neurotherapy, acupuncture, sacro-cranial therapy, topiramate and manipulative physiotherapy, all with little or no success. Over the years all symptoms have become milder but have not disappeared. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Mokey (04-12-2013) |
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Do you know of a good neurologist in the Boise area?
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You made some good points. I too experienced the frustration of going to the wrong medical professional. He was a more of a psych-neuro guy and not a neurologist. Unfortunately I wasted 4 hours taking tests that did not really add up to much. He seemed more interested in diagnosing me with depression or stress induced anxiety and completely discounted the fact that I experienced my second diagnosed concussion in a year. I work in a demanding job with a lot of responsibility so of course I experience stress but I like stress, it helps push me to achieve. My doctor fortunately seemed to support my views of the missed diagnosis however he has not been able to come up with a good treatment to help alleviate my lingering symptoms of poor balance, poor memory and sensitivity to noise. And to make things worse its now 2 months later and I hit my head again and was diagnosed with a third concussion. This one has made the lingering symptoms worse and my reaction times and vestibular deficiencies have lead my doctor to restrict me from driving. It sounds as if you may have an understanding of the issues from concussion symptoms that last a while. Have you made any progress in recovery?
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Things I wish I had known when I had post concussive syndrome:
1) Doctor intervention is important. Getting to the right doctors always makes a difference. Headaches and anxiety were treated, plus Occipital Neuralgia. 2)Keeping a diary of your symptoms every day is important. You can look back and feel good about progress, also it is a great tool to show to your doctors and therapists. 3)"Rest? What rest? I can't sleep! I am lucky if I get sleep at all!". This is the very thing I said to the doctors, and was later prescribed on mirtazapine, which controlled sleep, nausea and appetite. 4 months later, I successfully tapered off of mirt and have beautiful sleep. Do what you can to get rest. I can't express that enough. 4)Nutrition is important. Mark's Vitamins and Supplements thread helped me a bunch. I still take the vitamin regimen every day, and to be honest, even though I have recovered, my ADD brain performs better and I can calm down when frustrated. 5)Avoid going out into crowded places. The stress, nausea and pain from going out actually make me run back into my car, plus it takes a bit of time to recover from a place called Wal-Mart. Now, I can go into Wal-Mart without problems now that I have recovered. 6)Remember that song It takes two to make things go right? Well, that is correct. In fact, sometimes more than two people is great. People need support from other people, especially during PCS/TBI. I can't express how great it was to have my friend watch over me everyday. She supported me during my dark times and understood my triggers, and on good days, we would do low stimulation activities such as art. 7)"Being normal" are two bad words during PCS, and should never be used. You will never recover to "normal". It's not possible. During healing, the brain changes so much and ever so slowly, and during your PCS journey, your personality does change. Mine changed for the better, I feel more grateful towards life and I am no longer afraid to ask for help when I need it. However, the hot-headed stubborn part hasn't changed. lol! I am still 98% recovered with symptoms of Occipital Neuralgia since April of 2013. 8)An anti-depressant helps sometimes in some situations. During my PCS journey, I was extremely anxious and depressed. My brain was screaming for help as I felt I had lost everything in my life and wanted it back. This caused major depressive disorder caused by both my ADHD and PCS. Having both didn't help plus being anxious all the time didn't help, I got on board with Paxil. I have not tapered yet since it helps me with my troubling ADHD symptoms since childhood, such as depressive episodes and some anxiety. 9)"I'm having a good day, can I watch some television?" Absolutely not. You need 2 weeks of good days to determine if you feel better, and even then over-stimulation should only be increased little by little daily to see what you can handle. I was an avid gamer before my PCS and it killed me to not have gaming in my life. 2 weeks passed, and I slowly got into video games slowly. Proteus and the game Flower was very easy on my brain, and so was brain training games like Lumosity. I went into increasing by 5 minute intervals each day. 10)Life is full of ups and downs. This is a down that will soon become an up. I promise, its gets better from here. You will improve in some way. Take care of you during this time. I felt grief and mourning over my life during PCS, which later turned into acceptance and happiness after a while. I really hope this helps you all as this comes from a PCS survivor. If you have any questions, drop me a message. I will be happy to help. Brain injury awareness is important and the support is lacking. Warm wishes to you, Elisa (Consider)
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College Student in Information Technology and avid PC Gamer, hit the back of my head against a bunk bed and went unconscious for 3 minutes back in 10-28-2012. Symptoms: Occipital Neuralgia. 2 MRI's and CT normal. Currently going through Paxil withdrawals, and psych has me on L-Theanine, Benadryl for zaps, and Lemon Balm. It has eased it by a bit, so I am continuing the treatment till 1 month from now. Made a 98% recovery on April 8, 2013 with only symptoms of pinched nerves/Occipital Neuralgia in the head and is being treated with injections and physical therapy. Was experiencing: Migraines, Headaches, Nausea and Vomiting, Panic Attacks and Anxiety, Depression, Major Insomnia, Brain Fog, Tinnitus, Lethargy, Loss of appetite, Major Heart Palpitations, Occipital Neuralgia has eased a bit. Vitamins and Medicines: , L-Theanine, Omega 3 Super DHA 900mg, Stress B-Complex Extra Strength, Potassium Gluconate 1000mg, Magnesium Malate 1250mg, Vitamin D3 2000 IU, Methylcobalamin B-12 5000 mcg, Vitamin C 500mg, Lemon Balm. Things that helped me: My Vitamin Regimen, Medication, Earplugs (Love these!), Nature Sounds, Hydrotherapy, Neck Pillow with Heat, Heating Pads, Resting, Being Outside! Last edited by Consider; 11-25-2013 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Spelling Errors |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Concussed Scientist (12-04-2013), Mark in Idaho (11-29-2013), poetrymom (11-30-2013), Smilegrl24 (10-12-2014) |
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@MarkinIdaho-
I just joined and thank you for your post. I'd like to PM you but don't know how as I have some questions that are specific and are specific to the Treasure Valley. I've had PCS for 2 years now and am having a horrible time here in the TV to find doctors who know what to do with me. I was a bike racer prior to my accident and cannot ride for more than 20 minutes before getting awful facial pains. I want to return to my life and you seem to be the guru! Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
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