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Old 04-16-2013, 01:42 AM #1
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Hi everyone,

I have seen yet another Dr who says Post traumatic stress and that I need to see a psychiatrist. I saw one for a year and it didn't help at all.

It was only when I went on leave from work, started doing stuff that didn't provoke symptoms that I started to improve. Of course, the psychiatrist said it was only because I wasn't stressed that I was improving (I had a few disagreements with the boss which was obviously cause I was sick). Anyway, I just wondering especially those that took ages for a diagnosis (MiaVita for example as your story is close to mine) how did you get it?

I'm going on two years and still only have a ptsd diagnosis which makes me think I have that because I haven't been diagnosed properly.

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I would be able to understand your story more to try to help you.
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What Happened: In 2011 I was in a MVA
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

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Just to reassure you that there are very few doctors out there who know anything about brain injury! Most know about concussions from reading the newspaper headlines. Good luck!!!
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What happened: Legs pulled forward by a parent's hockey stick while resting at the side of the rink at a family skate....sent me straight back. I hit the back of my head (with helmet) on the ice, bounced a few times, unconscious for a few minutes. September 11, 2011. Off work since then…I work part-time at home when I can. It has been hell but slowly feeling better (when I am alone☺).

Current symptoms: Vision problems (but 20/20 in each eye alone!) – convergence insufficiency – horizontal and vertical (heterophoria), problems with tracking and saccades, peripheral vision problems, eyes see different colour tints; tinnitus 24/7 both ears; hyperacusis (noise filter gone!), labyrinthian (inner ear) concussion, vestibular dysfunction (dizzy, bedspins, need to look down when walking); partial loss of sense of smell; electric shocks through head when doing too much; headaches; emotional lability; memory blanks; difficulty concentrating. I still can’t go into busy, noisy places. Fatigue. Executive functioning was affected – multi-tasking, planning, motivation. Slight aphasia. Shooting pain up neck and limited mobility at neck. Otherwise lucky!

Current treatments: Vestibular therapy, Vision therapy, amantadine (100 mg a day), acupuncture and physiotherapy for neck, slow return to exercise, magnesium, resveratrol, omega 3 fish oils, vitamins D, B and multi. Optimism and perserverance.
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Getting a valid diagnosis is very difficult. The Brain Trauma Foundation has been working on diagnostic criteria for concussions. They were awarded a federal contract to set the standards. I have not read anything saying they have completed their work.

A diagnostic that is valid but not accepted by doctors is qEEG using one of the well studied databases. The validity of diagnosing a concussion is 97% or so. Do a Google for "qeeg databases concussion" and you will find some good information.
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Mark you hit it on the spot! I did not know what the name of it was.Why is it not accepted by doctor's?If you do not mind me asking?Thanks
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

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Hi brain mush,
I had a very hard time getting a diagnosis. I was diagnosed and treated for chronic pain for many years before getting the TBI/PCS diagnosis. I just could not figure out how to get myself help. I had a car accident in 2006 that changed my life. I had had 8 or more concussions prior to the car accident. After the car accident I had slurred speech, trouble functioning, driving, cooking, basically everything. My personality changed and I was having horrible headaches and memory problems. I started having seizures in January of this year and reached out to a neurologist/movement disorder specialist who is treating my dad for Parkinson's disease/shy-Dragers syndrome. He spent two hours with me and did a through account of my history and neurological testing as well as balance testing. He was the one who diagnosed me with TBI/PCS manifested by cognitive impairment and chronic pain. He also diagnosed REM sleep behavior disorder and nocturnal epilepsy. He wrote me a two page letter to help me get approved for disability. I sustained neck, back, head and left leg injuries in the car accident that leave me crippled physically with pain. The TBI/PCS leaves me crippled mentally. I have since undergone neuropsychological testing and am waiting on the report from that now. This is how I got my diagnosis. I was just being written off as chronic pain, muscle damage, bulging disc problems, depression and PTSD before seeing this neurologist/movement disorder specialist. I am very grateful for this doctor. Things now make sense. Being in the no diagnosis or wrong diagnosis zone is so much worse than having a diagnosis that explains what is going on with you. You know when there is something seriously wrong with you that the doctors just are not catching. Don't give up. Get yourself to a neurologist/movement disorder specialist who is knowledgeable about this condition. Tell them that this is what you think you have. These are the symptoms that fit what you are going through. They do have tests that someone who knows what to look for can tell what is going on from.
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Had MVA in 2006 resulting in post concussive syndrome manifested by cognitive impairment, chronic pain/ fatigue. Chronic pain of head, neck, back, left leg.
Other problems include REM sleep behavior disorder, nocturnal frontal lobe epilepsy, chronic migraines associated with nausea/vertigo, episodes of passing out, hypoglycemia, liver dysfunction (had accidental overdose of acetaminophen in 2009) had liver and kidney failure, hernia, degenerative disc disease with compression of nerve root, PTSD, and other problems associated with functioning problems from traumatic brain injury (light, sound sensitive, easily overloaded, easily distracted, cannot focus, anxiety problems etc.)
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Back in 1997, when qEEG was starting to become validated by multiple separate studies, a single article written in the Journal of Neurology made the claim that qEEG was quackery. Even thought the methodology of the article's author has since been soundly proven false, the word was already out. It is hard to un-ring that bell.

Neuros do not change their minds easily. Since qEEG is promoted by the bio-feedback industry where very few have more than a Master's degree, it is easy to discredit. Plus, the equipment to do the testing is cheap and sold by quite a few 'mom and pop' shops and just about anybody can use it, there is no financial gain by the big medical industries promoting it.
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Thanks everyone for your stories.

MiaVita - I was in a car accident in 2010 and have been having issues since. I did neuropysch testing that said I may have had a concussion?? I relate to your posts a lot.

BrainPatch - Your post gives me comfort that the specialists are missing something.

Mark - I will look at the testing but I don't think they would take that seriously.

It was a colleague at work that suggested head injury to me. I researched it and found it fits me.

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Thumbs up Do not give up!

I never gave up threw hell and back.Ya I might of turned into the nastiest attitude, evil person, the fighter that was front line of combat. But it got me what I wanted a simple diagnosis. I'm not saying to go act like that!I am saying keep fighting to get a diagnosis. If you know your body and the person before versus now....KEEP FIGHTING!These M.D.'s do not know your body, how you feel, what you are going threw in symptoms etc. Did the other party have insurance?If so did you settle without diagnosis?What does your neck MRI say?Is your speech slurred?How are you still working?Please keep posting so we can help you!
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What Happened: In 2011 I was in a MVA
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Symptoms: Physical: I am always cold in any season!!I cannot tolerate anything pressure on my head(sun glasses,hats)longer then a hour,Lock jaw/Displaced TMJ, Dropsey, Hands go numb, Arms go numb, back of head numb (when asleep),Muscle spasms in face & upper body,migraines, concentration headaches, dizziness, nausea, neck and back trauma (from accident), tinnitus, extreme light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, EXTREME fatigue, impaired vestibular system, balance off, Pupils NEVER equal, disrupted sleep cycles,speech problems.

Cognitive: Cognitive Behavior, Brain fog, impulsivity, speech problems, word finding problems, slowed processing speeds, impaired visual memory, impaired complex attention

Emotional: Unable to handle stress or overstimulation without getting extremely irritable or angry, easily overstimulated, MAJOR depression, major anxiety, Panic attacks

Treatment so far: Treatment for PCS,PTSD,Depression & panic,Vestibular therapy, Physical therapy, Vitamin Schedule,Walking,No Dairy, No eggs, No caffeine, No artificial coloring, Sleep with 2 pillows, Very little sugars consumed, Eat healthy,No alcohol, Medications, limit stress and overstimulation.

~*~Learn to treasure yourself and your Divinity. Be willing to accept yourself completely. Be yourself, be graceful, be kind, be wild, be weird ... be true to yourself~*~
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