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12-03-2013, 12:18 AM | #1 | ||
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I recently completed 40 hyperbaric oxygen treatments at 1.5 atmosphere. I did 5 treatments a week (once daily M-F) for 8 weeks. While I am not 100% yet I have made great progress so far.
I have had PCS before about 3 years ago and hit my head again on a counter top about 6 months ago (4 months out when I started therapy). I also have had countless sub concussive impacts from playing ice hockey and snowboarding my entire life. These reasons are why I feel I am not 100% yet. However my cognitive test scores improved DRAMATICALLY. I attached a picture of them. Anyone who can afford this treatment (8000$ for 40 treatments) without going broke should really consider this treatment. Here is a link to a study with great results with patients being 2+ years out from injury: http://www.hbot.com/article/phase-i-...i-psc-and-ptsd In about a month I will be doing 40 more treatments. By the end of that set of treatments I hope to be 100% or close to it. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Mokey (12-03-2013) |
12-03-2013, 02:34 AM | #2 | ||
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Wow, Good for you.
I would love to see a double blind study with more subjects and no PTSD complications. I can testify to the increase in symptoms caused by PTSD on top of PCS. The HBOT people have been reporting anecdotal improvements for years. If a double blind study was done, it would give health insurance companies a reason to cover HBOT. This would definitely bring the cost down.
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12-07-2013, 05:37 PM | #3 | ||
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Totally agree. There are studies underway as I understand it. If this was covered by insurance so many people would benefit. If you can afford it Mark you should consider some treatments your self.
Hope all is well. If anyone has any questions please feel free to message me. |
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12-08-2013, 12:51 AM | #4 | ||
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The challenge to the study you referenced is that the subjects also had PTSD. PTSD is a physiological as well as a psychological condition. If the HBOT is resolving the PTSD, that alone would account for the improvements.
All of the prior studies did not show the level of improvements this study showed. In fact, some showed a negative outcome. A blast injury effects more than just the brain. There may be a synergistic effect from the HBOT causing healing to the rest of the body. HBOT's strong suit is improving capillary blood flow and capillary repair. Niacin also works to help with capillary blood flow and repair. The HBOT industry has been trying to sell HBOT for brain injuries and such for a decade or so. Your experience was at an expensive HBOT center. Other centers charge much less.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | AeroDan (07-19-2018) |
12-08-2013, 01:54 PM | #5 | ||
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Not really. Upon research, the norm I found for hard place chambers to be from 150-200 for off label treatment conditions like PCS which comes to 6000-8000 for 40 sessions. This was the only treatment center in the area.
Also I definitely dont have PTSD and I saw great improvements. Not only improvements in my daily life but concrete evidence of improvement. Not to mention this is not my first concussion and is my second round of PCS. I would like you to post the study that shows it is detrimental. Honestly Im calling bs on that claim. I did extensive research and the only other studys were done with much higher pressure that is flat out the wrong way to do it. The particular one Im refering to is the one the veterans association did and purposely used much higher pressure levels so the results would be poor. The VA has been adimantly against the idea from the get go because of the cost. Honestly disgusting thats how they treat our veterans. Your point about HBOTs improvement of capillary blood flow is true. The before and after SPECT scans show that brain metabolism/blood flow is significantly restored. In addition to this it helps to get inflammation under control. Plenty of people have seen great improvements like I have. While theyre may not be a perfect study to scientifically prove it, it certainly has had a huge positive impact on many peoples condition. When done right at the right pressure (1.5 atmospheres) you have a very great chance of improving. Im living proof. One of the veteran women from the Harch study recently won a medal in the warrior games in track. After three years of crippling PCS from multiple TBIs in succession without proper early on care and she ran competed and won an athletic event. Shes currently on an expidition to the south pole. Do you think you could travel to the south pole after taking niacin? ha noooo no I dont think so. Im sorry but discouraging people from considering this treatment is absolutely dangerous. Tnis treatment should not be underestimated. Last edited by teaaquinn; 12-08-2013 at 02:46 PM. |
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12-08-2013, 10:19 PM | #6 | ||
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Hi Teaaquin. Glad you are feeling better.
Did you have vision issues and vestibular and auditory problems (cranial nerve and brain stem issues?) I am interested in hbot. None in my city so it would be very disruptive to go somehwere else (i have two young kids)
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What happened: Legs pulled forward by a parent's hockey stick while resting at the side of the rink at a family skate....sent me straight back. I hit the back of my head (with helmet) on the ice, bounced a few times, unconscious for a few minutes. September 11, 2011. Off work since then…I work part-time at home when I can. It has been hell but slowly feeling better (when I am alone☺). Current symptoms: Vision problems (but 20/20 in each eye alone!) – convergence insufficiency – horizontal and vertical (heterophoria), problems with tracking and saccades, peripheral vision problems, eyes see different colour tints; tinnitus 24/7 both ears; hyperacusis (noise filter gone!), labyrinthian (inner ear) concussion, vestibular dysfunction (dizzy, bedspins, need to look down when walking); partial loss of sense of smell; electric shocks through head when doing too much; headaches; emotional lability; memory blanks; difficulty concentrating. I still can’t go into busy, noisy places. Fatigue. Executive functioning was affected – multi-tasking, planning, motivation. Slight aphasia. Shooting pain up neck and limited mobility at neck. Otherwise lucky! Current treatments: Vestibular therapy, Vision therapy, amantadine (100 mg a day), acupuncture and physiotherapy for neck, slow return to exercise, magnesium, resveratrol, omega 3 fish oils, vitamins D, B and multi. Optimism and perserverance. |
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