[Steve-Vancity]

Hi,

This is my first post, so glad to have found this forum. brief history. I am on a 16

month leave of absence from work. I gave myself my first concussion last

august, 10 days into LOA . was going to travel the world. first concuss was

much better by november so I decided to come to puerto vallarta to rest a while

in a warmer climate. I gave myself another concussion in march most of my

symptoms from the first one where gone, but still had a few. second one is

worse, screens hurt my head where they didn't on my first one. anyway, I

found out about hbot through some research and found out the actually have

a chamber down here. it is 5 times cheaper than in canada and the states

$40 a session compared to $200. So I was quite excited to try. I have had 7

Sessions so far. the results are mixed, I noticed almost right away I could

have more meaningful conversations and actually concentrate on what I was

saying and not forget things, my head felt clearer while doing it to. The only

downside I see is I have to take one of the rickety old buses about 30 min to

get there, you are being bumped around the whole time, it is not good. I am

thinking it is doing more bad than the hbot is doing good. to further muddle

it is doing any good is the fact that I think I contracted some kind of bug a

couple weeks ago. at least I think it was a bug. it could be pcs flaring up I am

not sure, I was fine, well with my normal pcs symptoms until a couple weeks

ago when I drove out to a friends place in his car. it was bumpy and I don't

do well with bumpy. the next day I was walking to the store and all of sudden

my head felt full, it was like I was under water, my hearing was different to. I

felt a little dizzy. I came home and rested and haven't felt really better from

since. I get nausea in the mornings. I had vertigo once. I went to a doc and

they gave me some parasite pills you take for 3 days but they didn't do

anythng. see then ordered a blood lab to see if there was any bacteria etc,

that was clean except my cholesteral was 221, not bad for a 47 year old, and

I am not over weight. she tried to tell me that was causing all my symptoms

wrote me a script for a statin...I haven't taken any as I really don't think that

is it. anyway, I went to a TNE guy after I had vertigo on morning in my bed.

he could recreate it in his office but gave me a script for serc. haven't had

vertigo since but lots of dizzyness especially if I move around to fast. mostly

in the mornings that bothers me. I am wondering if I should continue to take

rickety bouncy old bus to get hbot or not. it is so cheap here I feel compelled

get it. but I don't want to do more damage to myself. I would appreciate any

and all opinions because I feel all alone with this down here. my plan was to

40 treatments and then fly home to canada. mexico is not a great place to

have a concussion as it is loud, it is just a loud culture. I apologize if this is a

little long, thanks in advance.

[Steve-Vancity]

Hi,

I am going to post this again single space but space between paragraphs, is that the proper way? I know we all have problems reading screens to varioous degrees so I apologize in a advance if this is still incorrect. I couldn't find an edit button, so I am just replying. thanks,

This is my first post, so glad to have found this forum. brief history. I am on a 16
month leave of absence from work. I gave myself my first concussion last
august, 10 days into LOA . was going to travel the world. first concuss was
much better by november so I decided to come to puerto vallarta to rest a while
in a warmer climate. I gave myself another concussion in march most of my
symptoms from the first one where gone, but still had a few.

Second one is worse, screens hurt my head where they didn't on my first one. anyway, I
found out about hbot through some research and found out the actually have
a chamber down here. it is 5 times cheaper than in canada and the states
$40 a session compared to $200. So I was quite excited to try. I have had 7
Sessions so far. the results are mixed, I noticed almost right away I could
have more meaningful conversations and actually concentrate on what I was
saying and not forget things, my head felt clearer while doing it to. The only
downside I see is I have to take one of the rickety old buses about 30 min to
get there, you are being bumped around the whole time, it is not good. I am
thinking it is doing more bad than the hbot is doing good.

To further muddle the situation
is the fact that I think I contracted some kind of bug a
couple weeks ago. at least I think it was a bug. it could be pcs flaring up I am
not sure, I was fine, well with my normal pcs symptoms until a couple weeks a
go when I drove out to a friends place in his car. it was bumpy and I don't
do well with bumpy. the next day I was walking to the store and all of sudden
my head felt full, it was like I was under water, my hearing was different to. I
felt a little dizzy. I came home and rested and haven't felt really better from
since.

I get nausea in the mornings. I had vertigo once. I went to a doc and
they gave me some parasite pills you take for 3 days but they didn't do
anything. see then ordered a blood lab to see if there was any bacteria etc,
that was clean except my cholesterol was 221, not bad for a 47 year old, and
I am not overweight. she tried to tell me that was causing all my symptoms
wrote me a script for a statin...I haven't taken any as I really don't think that
is it. anyway, I went to a TNE guy after I had vertigo on morning in my bed.
he could recreate it in his office but gave me a script for serc. haven't had
vertigo since but lots of dizzyness especially if I move around to fast. mostly
in the mornings that bothers me.

I am wondering if I should continue to take
rickety bouncy old bus to get hbot or not. it is so cheap here I feel compelled
get it. but I don't want to do more damaand all opinions because I feel all alone with this down here. my plan was to
40 treatments and then fly home to canada. mexico is not a great place to
have a concussion as it is loud, it is just a loud culture. I apologize if this is a
little long, thanks in advance.

[anon1028]

for 40 bucks a pop you might as well finish off 40 sessions. Don't worry too much about the rickety bus. It might do nothing or it might help a bunch. If there was one around here for 40 bucks I would do it. Others may disagree and they may be right. In the end it is your decision

[Steve-Vancity]

Originally Posted by markneil1212

for 40 bucks a pop you might as well finish off 40 sessions. Don't worry too much about the rickety bus. It might do nothing or it might help a bunch. If there was one around here for 40 bucks I would do it. Others may disagree and they may be right. In the end it is your decision

That's what I was thinking Mark. I was so excited when I found out they actually had a chamber here. Then when I found out it was out by the marina (I am in old town for those who are familiar with pv) about a 25-30 bus ride I kind of moaned. I had taken the bus once back in november before I got my second concussion and was doing pretty good after my first. after the bus ride I felt like I had a major setback and it took me more than a few days to get back to where I was. Now taking it everyday I am worried I am just scrambling my brain even more. The combination of no shocks and cobblestone roads, yikes. But like you said hbot for $40 a session is almost to good to pass up. I guess I will continue on for a while more and see how it goes.Thanks for the input though, it's always good to see how someone else views the situation.

[Mark in Idaho]

I would not risk the 30 minute bouncy ride for the off chance that HBOT may help. The short term improvements are due to the hyper-oxygenated blood. It takes 40 to 80 treatments to start to see a sustainable improvement, if at all.

Nothing is worth putting up with a sustained bouncy ride in my experience.

btw, The best format for a post is single spaced with a double space every 5 or 6 lines. Your 10 line paragraphs are a struggle.

[Galaxy1012]

I agree with Mark in Idaho. You have already had 2 concussions. Don't take any chances with the bus ride. Nobody can say for sure whether those bumpy rides are causing any damage or not. But it's certainly not worth it when there are 40 sessions involved and you have to bear those bumps everyday for 40-80 days. The improvement is probably temperory as Mark said. I have the same sensitivity to head from bumps.

I wonder why we have to worry about these bumps when a football player can take countless sub concussive hits to his head after having sustained a concussion and do just fine because he isn't hitting his head enough to cause any further damage and they can take those hits over and over again daily for months. Why do we have to worry about those stupid potholes and bumps when we aren't even hitting our head like those careless football players. They run they fall they hit their head helmet to helmet they head kick the football so many times and still appear to be fine after a concussion. We just take a bump from road and worry so much.

I think anxiety is a part of this but still you don't take any chances buddy..good luck

[anon1028]

nobody is going to say they are hurting when they are making multi millions of dollars and there is a guy very hungry to take your job standing 10 feet away on the sideline. Hence the outbreak of severe mental, cognitive, and physical problems hitting football players as young as in their 40s and the leagues decision to pay billions and billions of dollars in a settlement with the retired players and the colleges to make a huge settlement with the ex players. they payed the price with the rest of the years of their lives. Not to mention the numerous suicides and subsequent studies on the deceased ones brain showing encephalopathy

[Steve-Vancity]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I hear you about the possible damage from the bumpy bus ride. I am trying to find some place cheap to stay at out close to the hbot clinic so I can walk to the sessions. I so wish it was in town where I could walk to it. Will let you know how it goes.

[Mark in Idaho]

Galaxy, You don't understand the football issue. It is the cumulative sub-concussive impacts that does the worst damage. It is a slow developing damage. It does not manifest immediately like a concussion. But, those sub-concussive impacts are maybe once or twice per play with time between plays. The bumpy road is a continuous series of sub-concussive impacts with no break in between. It can be much worse than a game's or practice's accumulation of subconcussive impacts.

btw, The NFL only paid out $700 million in their settlement. The NCAA is only paying $70 million with only a portion going to the injured players.

[Galaxy1012]

I get you Mark. I think my basic understanding of sub concussive impacts is not clear here, I apologise. I always thought that direct sub concussive impacts to head are more riskier and damaging than those that we get from road bumps. Moreover an athlete or a football player runs aggressively during a play which sends several impacts to his head, faces several violent body to body impacts and falls down many times. The nature of sports is very violent and inhuman so shouldn't that be causing damage more quicker and intense than just travelling in a bus and those bumps slightly shaking our heads back and forth? I hope I am not sounding too stupid here, pardon me if I do. Also I think for those bumps to cause any damage, the road has to be extremely bumpy and rough throughout the journey and the suspension of the vehicle must be in a very poor condition to cause damage to the brain, if any. Otherwise this doesn't make much sense to me if you compare it with the damage caused in a sport like football. My understanding could be wrong altogether here!