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Old 07-18-2014, 12:19 AM #1
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wondering if it is a good idea to ice my neck. I get so much pain in my face/jaw/teeth/temples/ears from even a gentle massage on my neck/shoulders. However, I was told not to ice (or use a heat pack) on my neck by my chiropractor, as this might do some damage to my brain. Wondering if anyone knows more info.
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I suggest you find a different chiropractor. Icing will not hurt your brain. I promote icing quite often. In fact, I was taught the importance of icing by 3 different chiropractors.

I wonder why you stay with that chiro if your neck is such a problem. Does he do "twist the head and pop the neck' adjustments ? They are often far too aggressive for the subtle neck injuries we suffer from.

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Only a (insert demeaning description of your choice) does the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.

Sometimes, we need a prompt to stop and think about changing our direction. Just because a professional has M.D., Ph.D., D.O., or D.C. after their name does not mean they are the only solution to our problems.
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I suggest you find a different chiropractor. Icing will not hurt your brain. I promote icing quite often. In fact, I was taught the importance of icing by 3 different chiropractors.

I wonder why you stay with that chiro if your neck is such a problem. Does he do "twist the head and pop the neck' adjustments ? They are often far too aggressive for the subtle neck injuries we suffer from.

There is a saying.

Only a (insert demeaning description of your choice) does the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.

Sometimes, we need a prompt to stop and think about changing our direction. Just because a professional has M.D., Ph.D., D.O., or D.C. after their name does not mean they are the only solution to our problems.
Thank you Mark! The only healthcare provider I am satisfied with so far is my acupuncturist...
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Mark, I just iced my neck and it did WONDERS!! How have I not done this until now!!!! I am so grateful for your sharing your knowledge/experience with us.
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I have a very personal relationship with several bags of frozen peas in my freezer. Should anyone remove or eat them there would be words.

Ice on my neck keeps me from serious drugs. I have avoided trips to the ER by using ice. Your chiro sounds like a wack a doodle.

Use ice Will. You will become an addict like the rest of us. It's a good addiction.

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wondering if it is a good idea to ice my neck. I get so much pain in my face/jaw/teeth/temples/ears from even a gentle massage on my neck/shoulders. However, I was told not to ice (or use a heat pack) on my neck by my chiropractor, as this might do some damage to my brain. Wondering if anyone knows more info.
Ice damage the brain? Is that a joke?

My PT is a huge advocate of ice on the back of the neck. She even got me some really nice, professional grade ice packs. I LOVE ice.
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I'm thinking of filling the hole bathtub with ice and just living in it lol
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Hmm...what a strange comment from your chiro.

My vestibular therapist from my very established health care company told me that icing my neck regularly was very beneficial. It helped slow down the signals from the amygdala after brain injuries like nausea and dizziness and panic attacks.

I agree with other posters here that I am not sure where I would have been that first year after my injury without my ice packs-I still use mine very fondly.

The icing also reduces swelling and inflammation and is generally and accepted practice for Olympic athletes as well RICE (Rest. Ice. Compression. Elevation).

So-I'm not sure quite where or what the science behind your Chiro's opinion is, but I might get another one.
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My massage therapist also told me absolutely no ice on the neck! something to do with muscles not liking it.

Hmmm...I have actually never tried it and am sitting here in pain.

Am going in a minute to get a bag of veggies out of the freezer.
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Come to the dark side...use ice...u will like it! 😊
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