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Old 03-04-2015, 12:24 AM #1
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does anyone else experience what i call "eye wobbling"? when you read and are moving from one line to the next (while my eyes seem to get to the correct spot) i feel like they go too fast to the point where it's actually slightly painful.. like they jet there. sometimes it feels like they "wobble" there.. meaning rather than move in a strictly horizontal fashion it feels like they are turning inside the socket though visually i do not notice (it could just be one eye). picture how a penguin walks and that's the kind of motion i'm talking about. anyone else get this?

also, does anyone else experience fatigue after talking on the phone for a prolonged period of time (~ 1 - 1.5 hrs)? is this overstimulation that i'm experiencing?
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When I was recovering, I had a number of people assess my vision by having me track their finger. All described the movement as "jagged." You might have someone try this with you and see what they notice. This improved after I got vision therapy.
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I was asessed in this way and told me eyes are moving normally.. it doesn't feel normal though. I am also participating in vision therapy.

Can I ask what your therapy consisted of? Specifically what kinds of exercises or training did you do improve your vision. I assume you had the Brock string for vergence, Snellen chart on wall for accomodation.. anything else?
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Yes - I told the doctor and he didn't really believe me. It happened if I got over stimulated and would last about 5 minutes. I would then feel bad for hours after that.

I walked too fast in Sam's club one day and it happened but this time by wife saw it. I had to stop driving until I got it under control. I had many warning sign before an attach. I learned to stop and meditate.

I thought it was common but maybe not.
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you are speaking of fatigue not the eye wobbling right? if so did you get it under control or did it just go away?
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I'm in the same boat with vision, a little different. Initially couldn't move my eyes left to right without "forcing" it or felt like flexing my eyes. Still having issues with it. I feel like it gets worse when tired or driving. I was going to make a post about this, has anyone had really good success with vision therapy? Maybe it will get answered on here if not will repost

I also have issues with talking, especially groups. I am good at first and then it just begins to shut down, almost like I am still talking but I am not really all there, like detached or something. Some days no problems at all. I chalk it up to fatigue but who knows. It almost feels like there is not enough blood to go around, I can either talk well or see well, not together.



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My daughter has this 6 months after her tbi. She wears prism glasses and bifocals for vision but it is a cranial nerve palsy. It is getting better but not gone. Eye dr said it may take surgery. She is wall eyed and over correcting now. They don't live up right. And she gets tired when reading. She is doing pt with vision therapy.
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Yes!!!

I have the eye wobbles bad!

I asked my Neuro OT what the heck!

She who primarily focused on vision training with me told me that my focal and ambient visual systems were off. That my visual processing center in the brain was on overdrive trying to understand my environment. She had me do a lot of proprioception work to get my brain to learn my environment through my other senses -touch, stance, smell, hearing etc to give my eyes some peace. It's taken a lot of work but my wobbles are now only happening if I'm super fatigued, way overstimulated, or reading in lighting that promotes glare.

I noticed as my eyes wobbled I also lost hearing and would get out of sorts. Again my eyes were overworking trying to understand what was going on around me. When it happens now I 'think before look' I look at an object I know isn't moving, I use a slinky to walk around (as directed by my OT) and track objects as I walk and listen to the slinky (I've cracked up thinking a slinky really?!!). It promotes proprioception engages my hands and ears and allows my eyes to focus only on what they need to.

I can't say enough about NeuroOT vision therapy. Saved my sanity!

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On the phone- is it your attention or hearing that goes? Are you closing your eyes and listening or are you looking around and talking?
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dots: hmm interesting - i haven't noticed particular instances with regards to vision when my "wobbles" occur. i'm participating in vision therapy as well.. what do they have you doing for it? i haven't found it to be super high tech.. they basically have told me to just keep reading as much as my eyes would tolerate.

when i'm talking on the phone i'm just looking around and doing stuff as i would have been prior to being injured. it isn't the sound that overwhelms me because i can listen to music all day long (and often do to pass the time). it might be the talking? or maybe having to concentrate on the conversation? i'm unsure. it is somewhat my attention but i would say really i just start to feel fatigued.

msnyder: how did they diagnose the nerve palsy?
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She did a full exam with a vision specialist.
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