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Old 11-15-2015, 06:51 PM #11
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What kind of scan showed misalignment of C-2 ? Was it just treated by a chiro.

It appears there are 2 different issues being discussed.

One is being able to take the deep breath. Jaw problems can make it difficult to open the mouth wide to take a deep breath for a yawn. I dealt with this with a locked TMJ. I was only able to open my mouth a finger width. It took a year to slowly back to 2 1/2 finger widths. My PT did not myofacial release to help the muscles relax. I saw a TMJ specialist dentist and an ENT with expertise in TMJ. He suggested a BOTOX injection to weaken the TMJ muscles.

The second is the ability to finish neurologically. Some can take a deep breath but never get the sense of a yawn. The literature I read did not explain the physical cause of this lack of sensing a completed yawn. A relaxed diaphragm, a relaxing sort of buzz, and related sensations just do not happen at the end of the deep breath. They suggest it is part of anhedonia, a neurological disorder that causes a reduced sense of pleasure.
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troublehead, If you have tense muscles behind your ear, that often signifies a subtle upper neck injury. Some gentle chiropractic or physical therapy to help C-1 and C-2 find proper alignment is often very helpful.
I've had Atlas correction. It did nothing for me, so I dont think thats where my problem is.

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The second is the ability to finish neurologically. Some can take a deep breath but never get the sense of a yawn. The literature I read did not explain the physical cause of this lack of sensing a completed yawn. A relaxed diaphragm, a relaxing sort of buzz, and related sensations just do not happen at the end of the deep breath. They suggest it is part of anhedonia, a neurological disorder that causes a reduced sense of pleasure.
I can open my mouth normally (wide enough to bite an apple). I guess its neurologic then. I have been trying to yawn everyday now, and today on some rear occasions I was actually able to catch a yawn, with yawning sensation. Maybe I just need to retrain myself to yawn again.
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A couple of Atlas corrections may not be enough. You may need to do some home therapy by avoiding bad head and neck posture while sleeping and resting. It takes weeks and even months for the ligaments to tighten properly to hold atlas in proper position.

I just order a LLLT system to try to help ligaments and tendons heal better. This is what I ordered. http://revivelighttherapy.com/produc...-light-therapy except I ordered it from Walgreens because their web site says it comes with a second LED head for red 625 nm light.
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Mark that device seems to be a LED light therapy not LLLT (laser)..
[Powerful, medical grade, pain treatment LED lights ]

LED treatments will do similar to soft/cold/low level laser, but takes a lot longer to get results ( 15-30 min and more sessions) vs the low level laser which a spot treatment might only take 20 seconds.

I was hoping it was a low level laser for that price, I have been watching for the cost of LLLT to come down.
I really had some excellent & fast relief with the one my chiro used.
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LLLT is also used to mean Low Level Light Therapy as well as Low Level Laser Therapy. The laser people try to say laser is better but watts/joules are the same either way. The laser people claim laser is directed better but the research shows no difference. What matters is the watts/joules and wavelength. ~980 nm is optimum but research shows 625 nm and up are beneficial at stimulating cellular repair. You can buy LED systems with a flexible wrap around application.

There are laser diodes. They have been using them in printers for decades.

btw, Sign up for the email notification at the Kathie Ireland web site and they send you an email with a 15% discount code. (enjoy15nov) http://revivelighttherapy.com/collec...-light-therapy
$84.15 is just 2 co-pays to see my PT with his expensive system.

It appears the big difference is the kind of FDA approval obtained. The LED has an exempt GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe) approval so they cannot claim to treat a medical condition. They can only claim to treat the symptoms of a medical condition (pain) whereas the laser system can claim to help with healing.

Mine is being shipped. I'll report back in a few weeks. Any improvement with my painful shoulder will be worthwhile. I don't plan on using it for my PCS as of yet even though it is the wavelength research says helps with PCS. http://www.kurzweilai.net/light-ther...brain-injuries
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