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newbie787 12-16-2015 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bud (Post 1188622)
Newbie,

I am 21 months post injury.

Last month was my first time traveling since my injury and I noticed I was having fun driving on the freeway. Always enjoyed tight traffic at freeway speeds...reminds me of my racing days.

I have been driving for 7 months again but was only comfortable on quiet country roads and had to work extra hard at vigilance in traffic or not drive at all. The last month I feel more like myself but am definitely driving slower.

Bud

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm fine on quieter roads too.

The symptoms for me are more anxiety attacks. The second I get into traffic I can feel the anxiety ramping up. Which is very strange for me. I'm typically a confident driver. I'm not exactly sure if the concussion has changed something to make me feel anxious, or if I'm anxious about worrying about the anxiety. Its really hard to know. I have read anxiety is a common symptom of this.

Unfortunately I was planning driving home for Christmas, which is about 4 hours away by car. I think i'll have to scrap that plan. That will go down well.

Lara 12-16-2015 03:06 AM

Hi newbie,
I'm sorry you're dealing with all this. I would really suggest you try to get a handle on the anxiety if it's this bad at such an early stage. The problem with anxiety/panic attacks is that once they become entrenched it can become extremely difficult to stop them. I went through this many years ago especially with driving. Unfortunately it became almost impossible for me to leave the house for quite a long time. It was disabling.

Please talk to your doctor or another professional who understands anxiety as it is associated with PCS so that you can overcome this as early as possible. I make it sound easy, and believe me, I know it's not, it's just that I worry so much when I read posts such as yours where the anxiety is already changing your day to day life in such a way.

I truly hope that you are feeling a lot better when it comes time for your trip home for Christmas.

newbie787 12-16-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1188646)
Hi newbie,
I'm sorry you're dealing with all this. I would really suggest you try to get a handle on the anxiety if it's this bad at such an early stage. The problem with anxiety/panic attacks is that once they become entrenched it can become extremely difficult to stop them. I went through this many years ago especially with driving. Unfortunately it became almost impossible for me to leave the house for quite a long time. It was disabling.

Please talk to your doctor or another professional who understands anxiety as it is associated with PCS so that you can overcome this as early as possible. I make it sound easy, and believe me, I know it's not, it's just that I worry so much when I read posts such as yours where the anxiety is already changing your day to day life in such a way.

I truly hope that you are feeling a lot better when it comes time for your trip home for Christmas.

Was your anxiety following head trauma Lara?

I'm not sure if this is a concussion issue or its just anxiety from all the 'stress' surrounding this concussion. I was actually driving fine for a few weeks following it. But you are right, once it sets in its really hard to break. Even walking towards a car makes me anxious.

I actually race Go Karts on a semi professional level and I'm really not an anxious person generally. I now understand how crippling it can be, you just can't control it.

I think I had kind of reached the end of the road with the doctor I had seen, she was excellent but there is only a limit on what they can do. I was hoping this would all just kind of clear itself up, as I am only 1 month out after all. But it seems the anxiety may be the real sting in the tail. I recently moved to Brisbane and I'm in a pretty dense urban environment so I know what you say about it feeling like you're stranded. I highly doubt I'd have much issues on the open country roads.

Lara 12-16-2015 05:37 AM

I've dealt with anxiety at different times in my life but I became much worse after a bad fall and subsequent concussion. That was a number of years ago now but it really hit me like a ton of bricks. Sitting at the lights was the worst for me. I don't know why really. Maybe it's the feeling of being trapped and of course, once you've experienced that first panic attack there's the fear of another happening when in a vunerable situation. That is the problem with them because they become somewhat self-perpetuating.

I can drive almost anywhere now. I just shared a 2000K drive just under a month ago. I've even driven the M1 a lot the past couple of years because someone depended on my doing that.

Learning about the physical signs of the fight or flight response/hyperarousal helped me a lot because understanding exactly how my own body was dealing with stressful situations demystified the whole process and, rather than just being thrown into chaos at random moments, I was able to work more on not allowing myself to get to that level of anxiety by being aware of cues that my body was sending in advance.

You'll be alright. Just take care of yourself right now, as you're still in the early weeks of recovery really. Try to keep living your life, even if it's at a much slower pace for a little while.

I'm glad I'm not driving that Brissie traffic anymore. I need a quiet life. ;)

newbie787 12-16-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1188655)
I've dealt with anxiety at different times in my life but I became much worse after a bad fall and subsequent concussion. That was a number of years ago now but it really hit me like a ton of bricks. Sitting at the lights was the worst for me. I don't know why really. Maybe it's the feeling of being trapped and of course, once you've experienced that first panic attack there's the fear of another happening when in a vunerable situation. That is the problem with them because they become somewhat self-perpetuating.

I can drive almost anywhere now. I just shared a 2000K drive just under a month ago. I've even driven the M1 a lot the past couple of years because someone depended on my doing that.

Learning about the physical signs of the fight or flight response/hyperarousal helped me a lot because understanding exactly how my own body was dealing with stressful situations demystified the whole process and, rather than just being thrown into chaos at random moments, I was able to work more on not allowing myself to get to that level of anxiety by being aware of cues that my body was sending in advance.

You'll be alright. Just take care of yourself right now, as you're still in the early weeks of recovery really. Try to keep living your life, even if it's at a much slower pace for a little while.

I'm glad I'm not driving that Brissie traffic anymore. I need a quiet life. ;)


Thats the exact same way it came about for me. Stuck in dense city traffic at a traffic light. I think it stems from the inability to 'escape'. On most roadways and freeways you can just pull over, but there you are stuck in traffic.

I've just given driving a rest for a week, because its not actually essential I drive for work, I can just catch a short bus trip. I'll take it up again in a few days time, likely this weekend. Hopefully whatever is wrong has passed by then, although I'm not so certain. I watched a few videos on youtube about panic and driving and they were honestly rather helpful.

Thanks a lot for your help :)

LouiseN 12-16-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1188573)
LouiseN,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. Sorry to hear of your struggles.

As you doctor said, your symptoms and progression are normal. No need for a CT Scan unless you develop worsening symptoms like intense headaches or motor control, similar to stroke symptoms.

You are very early in your recovery. With proper quiet rest and avoiding stress, you have a good chance (85%) of a spontaneous recovery within 6 weeks. Yuck, 6 weeks. That is just a statistic. Every concussion is different.

This is the worst time of year to have a concussion because of all the busyness and stress for Christmas, etc. Noise, lights, socializing, shopping etc. I suggest you get some foam earplugs. The Mack's brand appear to be the best. They will help with the crowd noise.

The sudden crying from a minor disturbance is not uncommon. People usually are understanding to a simple "I'm dealing with a concussion and normal crowds and noise are a struggle."

When riding in the car, try to not look at things close to the car. They move too fast. Instead, focus in the distance. It will be much less stress.

Carlson's makes some high purity fish oil. They have a salmon version that should be safe. Plus, get the B-12, B-50 Complex, D-3 and magnesium citrate supplement regimen going. Read the vitamins sticky at the top. It has some good links at the bottom.

My best to you.

Thank you I appreciate the time you took to share. I printed your vitamin regime. Yikes! I guess good to know so I don't push. I went out for a little walk today. Listened to a pod cast. I think too much listening and looking. head achy.
not too bad though. I will not worry about the naps and my sleeping schedule. Whoever mentioned the cracker and cheese I tried it. It took me about a half hour to fall asleep but I slept through. Nice to know you are out there Mark and everyone else. Your support is a comfort and helps. Thanks.

LouiseN 12-17-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1188573)
LouiseN,

Welcome to NeuroTalk. Sorry to hear of your struggles.

As you doctor said, your symptoms and progression are normal. No need for a CT Scan unless you develop worsening symptoms like intense headaches or motor control, similar to stroke symptoms.

You are very early in your recovery. With proper quiet rest and avoiding stress, you have a good chance (85%) of a spontaneous recovery within 6 weeks. Yuck, 6 weeks. That is just a statistic. Every concussion is different.

This is the worst time of year to have a concussion because of all the busyness and stress for Christmas, etc. Noise, lights, socializing, shopping etc. I suggest you get some foam earplugs. The Mack's brand appear to be the best. They will help with the crowd noise.

The sudden crying from a minor disturbance is not uncommon. People usually are understanding to a simple "I'm dealing with a concussion and normal crowds and noise are a struggle."

When riding in the car, try to not look at things close to the car. They move too fast. Instead, focus in the distance. It will be much less stress.

Carlson's makes some high purity fish oil. They have a salmon version that should be safe. Plus, get the B-12, B-50 Complex, D-3 and magnesium citrate supplement regimen going. Read the vitamins sticky at the top. It has some good links at the bottom.

My best to you.

I thought I responded. Thank you so much. I am grateful for your responses and the many responses I have read that you have posted. 6 weeks Yikes! then I read within 6 weeks. Hope. Patience.Learning. Listening to my symptoms. Faith. You're right overstimulation sets off the headaches and paranoia/fears. I haven't ventured out again except to go outside for a little bit in front of the house. yesterday. My husband is going to get me some Macks. Again, comforting to read your responses. Grateful.


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