--"bumping up" a previous thread with renewed relevance be illegal?

After all, if someone found the thread and posted something on it, it would in effect be "bumped up" . . .

This subject came up this week. So I thought I'd bring it to this thread.

Magnesium is moisture sensitive. It is hygroscopic, and draws water vapor to it, and will sweat, and eventually degrade the tablet.

If you place magnesium supplements in pill dispensers/minders you may run the risk to damaging other drugs with this moisture attracting characteristic.

Magnesium Chloride in SlowMag is the worst in this regard, but I would consider ALL magnesium supplements to have this potential. So keep your magnesium away from other drugs, keep in a tightly sealed container, with a moisture
packet included. People living in humid conditions, may have more problems than others. Once opened, the shelf life starts to go.
I have not been able to keep SlowMag for more than several months after opening.

Great article on Magnesium Deficiency


http://www.naturalnews.com/024597.html


(NaturalNews) How Important Are Magnesium and Colloidal Minerals? A mutual agreement now exists between the medical and complementary health communities on the fact that a wide range of minerals is essential for human health. Nutrient deficiencies or excesses can influence disease states. According to Dr. Joel Wallach, mineral deficiencies have been proven to be the direct cause of early deaths in elite and world famous athletes as well as other groups of the population.

As an example of how minerals work in the body, magnesium is directly involved in 300 bodily functions, and is one of the most essential minerals to our wellbeing. After potassium, magnesium is the second highest mineral level inside our cells. It is directly involved in many of our bodily functions and processes. A magnesium deficiency may contribute to developing osteoporosis, as it is needed for the absorption of calcium- along with vitamin D, potassium and boron. This is why a number of calcium supplement formulations include magnesium, because of its bioavailability and its synergistic effect.

A magnesium deficiency may present any number of symptoms (described below). If you experience any one of these, chances are you have a magnesium deficiency.

A magnesium mineral deficiency may cause the following symptoms:

* Nervous anxiety
* Depression
* Constipation
* High blood pressure
* Sleeplessness
* Muscle weakness, cramps and spasms (this one is a definite sign of magnesium deficiency, possibly even calcium)
* Premenstrual Syndrome
* Hearth rhythm irregularities/ angina
* Cravings for chocolate and caffeine (which also causes the body to lose more magnesium)
* Back pain
* Headaches, cluster headaches, migraines
* Stiff and aching muscles
* Bones and joints that need continued chiropractic treatment
* Hypoglycaemia
* Diabetes
* Nervousness
* Hyperactivity
* Osteoporosis
* Kidney stones
* Attention deficit disorder [ADD]
* Adrenal exhaustion/chronic fatigue syndrome
* Exhaustion from exercise

Magnesium has been recognised as a treatment for high blood pressure in pregnancy, as well as an anticonvulsant. It is essential for many metabolic processes - especially in maintaining correct levels of sodium, potassium and calcium in the body. Magnesium is a most important nutrient for the cardiovascular system, heart muscle function and muscle contraction. It is involved in about 300 biochemical processes in the body and is important for body temperature regulation, bone strength, dilation of blood vessels, and in the production of energy. In addition, it helps reduce the risk of forming kidney stones, as it is directly involved in helping the body utilise calcium from dietary sources. It is involved in muscle contraction – hence, its close association with the cardiovascular system - and in relaxing the muscles and calming the entire nervous system, which also helps us to sleep better.

Someone suggested to me taking magnesium taurate. What is the difference between magnesiums? What would be the best one to take? I had a blood test awhile ago that showed my magnesium level was low.

provides taurine, which supports the heart and nervous system.

Most magnesium taurates do not have high elemental magnesium content. So check your labels carefully. (this can be confusing since there is no standard to labeling).

You can take a better magnesium supplement and add taurine separately very inexpensively.

example:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails....1&pid=133&at=0

Thanks for that info. I don't even think I need taurine. What would be a good magnesium supplement to take?

If you are sensitive to the laxative actions of magnesium, then a delayed acting type is best. Like SlowMag (generic Mag 64).

If you don't easily get loose on magnesium then there are chelated types you can use.
magnesium Lactate
magnesium glycinate (not expensive)
magnesium citrate (in moderation--high dose=laxative)
magnesium malate (good for fibro people)
magnesium taurate (hard to find and more expensive)

I like the powdered form Ionic Fizz too. It works FAST.
You can alter the scoop size if it gets too laxative for you.
example for large tub:
http://www.vitacost.com/Pure-Essence...berry-Lemonade
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails....&pid=3197&at=0
I like the silica in it...this is good for tendons and connective tissue repair.

Just stay away from magnesium oxide--- this is very common and in many formulas. Even if the label says, "from magnesium oxide and chelate" avoid it. It will be all oxide.
I've called manufacturers and they cannot tell me how much of each is in their product...so I assume it is all oxide since that is the cheapest form. Oxide is very poorly absorbed.
You get about 8mg inside you from a 400mg tablet. So basically it is useless.

Some foods are good magnesium sources. I often do the nuts...say for lunch. 3 oz of unsalted almonds have 270mg of magnesium.

This website is really good for food values:
almonds:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/n...roducts/3086/2

Beans:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/l...roducts/4298/2

Broccoli:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/v...roducts/2361/2

Watch serving sizes, when looking up nutrients...they vary.
Also watch nutrition labels when buying supplements.
Sometimes for magnesium it will say, 4 capsules provide:
or 2 caplets provide...then give the chart. So sometimes people miss that they have to take more than one tablet/cap to get what the chart shows. Since both Calcium and magnesium supplements tend to be large in size, the number of caps is often raised.

A great artcile on magnesium

Insulin and Magnesium

Magnesium is necessary for both the action
of insulin and the manufacture of insulin.

Magnesium is a basic building block to life and is present in ionic form throughout the full landscape of human physiology. Without insulin though, magnesium doesn't get transported from our blood into our cells where it is most needed. When Dr. Jerry Nadler of the Gonda Diabetes Center at the City of Hope Medical Center in Duarte, California, and his colleagues placed 16 healthy people on magnesium-deficient diets, their insulin became less effective at getting sugar from their blood into their cells, where it's burned or stored as fuel. In other words, they became less insulin sensitive or what is called insulin resistant. And that's the first step on the road to both diabetes and heart disease.

Insulin is a common denominator, a central figure in life as is magnesium. The task of insulin is to store excess nutritional resources.
This system is an evolutionary development used to save energy and other nutritional necessities in times (or hours) of abundance in order to survive in times of hunger. Little do we appreciate that insulin is not just responsible for regulating sugar entry into the cells but also magnesium, one of the most important substances for life. It is interesting to note here that the kidneys are working at the opposite end physiologically dumping from the blood excess nutrients that the body does not need or cannot process in the moment.

Controlling the level of blood sugars is only one of the many functions of insulin. Insulin plays a central role in storing magnesium but if our cells become resistant to insulin, or if we do not produce enough insulin, then we have a difficult time storing magnesium in the cells where it belongs. When insulin processing becomes problematic magnesium gets excreted through our urine instead and this is the basis of what is called magnesium wasting disease.

There is a strong relationship between magnesium and insulin action. Magnesium is important for the effectiveness of insulin. A reduction
of magnesium in the cells strengthens insulin resistance.

Low serum and intracellular magnesium concentrations are associated with insulin resistance, impaired glucose tolerance, and decreased insulin secretion. Magnesium improves insulin sensitivity thus lowering insulin resistance. Magnesium and insulin need each other. Without magnesium, our pancreas won't secrete enough insulin--or the insulin it secretes won't be efficient enough--to control our blood sugar.

Magnesium in our cells helps the muscles to relax but if we can’t store magnesium because the cells are resistant then we lose magnesium which makes the blood vessels constrict, affects our energy levels, and causes an increase in blood pressure. We begin to understand the intimate connection between diabetes and heart disease when we look at the closed loop between declining magnesium levels and declining insulin efficiency.

Though it would be a long stretch of the longest giraffe’s neck to compare insulin with chlorophyll we are walking a trail at the very nuclear core of life. It’s the magnesium trail and we find to our surprise that it takes us into intimate contact with the very structure and foundation of life. The dedication of this chapter is to the beauty of magnesium, to its meaning in life, in health and in medicine.

We were talking about chlorophyll and now insulin and putting magnesium in-between. Walking further along is the DHEA magnesium story and the DNA magnesium story. And then there is the cholesterol magnesium story. Every part of life is in love with magnesium except allopathic medicine which just cannot accept it in all its light, flame and beauty. Thousands of years ago the Chinese named it the beautiful metal and they were seeing something pharmaceutical medicine does not want to see for there is little money to be made from something so common.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024847.html

the magnesium in ionic fizz is actually magnesium carbonate and the calcium is calcium lactate/ carbonate, so I'm not sure if that affects the absorbability.

actually never really liked the stuff to tell you the truth, even jarrow falls shorts it seems in terms of their product, magnesium optimizer the taurine supposedly enhances the effect, but all i see is 4 tablets daily, and the tablets are probably huge!