ummmmm
i am going to look into this and see if i can get someone to post this for me as Walmart does not post to australia !!
i have been using magnesium for a loooooooooooong time for a cardiac irregularity of left bundle branch block.... and what i take is this.........mag chelate 500mcg (mag from amino acid chelate 500 mg) 100 mg.
suggested dose is 1-2 caps 2-3 times a day.
the mag and the dose was suggested by a naturopath and greeted negatively by all medical practitioners 20 + years ago . to the point where i simply did not say i took it anymore

it is made for a reputable supplement supplier here....for whom the naturopath worked as a consultant. they do make other forms of magnesium

what are your thoughts on this please Mrs D?
i have to confess to confusion on all the magnesiums and need to order again right now . my head is spinning literally from a fall on the weekend and i am not at my best thinking. my attempt to read all these pages will not result in success i suspect

i have BP problems but also an interesting experience when i stopped taking magnesium for a while and developed my second heart irregularity....bigeminy and trigeminy. my radial pulse runs at around 40 and the beats are erratic. i take a beta blocker in small doses and it stops the palpatations and helps my BP.
the initial episode was treated with IV magnesium and it was effective within about 20 minutes. however my going back to this magnesium dose of two of these caps daily has has not changed the beat and i have this very erratic heart rate confirmed by docs and nurses and all kinds of tests.
taking magnesium is now ok but no one has suggested i take more than i do
how things change in 20 years !!

i am grateful for so much of your wisdom that u share

many thanks

If you are low in D.... you will not absorb as much magnesium from oral caps/tabs.
If you use acid blocking drugs for heartburn, you will not absorb much mag orally either.
If you use diuretics, you lose mag thru the urine.
If you have diabetes I or II, you lose mag thru the urine.

Topical may be the way to go for you. There are magnesium liquids topical called "oils" that you may find.
Peter B here uses magnesium chloride and he lives in Australia. That is another topical type.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post851113-265.html

If you have poor kidney functions, you have to be careful with oral doses. I do think doctors today are more versed on magnesium for the heart, but still they may not be. They are very slow to change.

I don't ever recommend more than the RDA online. Anything higher should be monitored by your doctor.

thank u so much mrs d

i am not currently low in D. i supplement after being found very low some years ago. forget my number but it is good by any standard now after being about as low as possible

i am on Nexium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esomeprazole

i am prediabetic and on metformin......trying to loose weight

my kidney function is fine

i had not heard of the mag chloride. it might not be something i can or cannot manage as i am forgetful about that sort of sipping a bit here and there sort of thing
however i will give it some thinking. i need to order today from my regular supplier but will look around for the chloride when i am feeling more able

i am taking under the recommended dose of the magnesium chelate but really wondered what your thoughts are on 1) the chelated version and 2) whether my taking approx 1/3 of the average dose was reasonable .....yes i know that is a question u may not care to answer :-)

many many thanks...again

Well, the Nexium is highly problematic. It will impair several nutrients' absorption.

B12
folate
calcium
magnesium
iron
zinc
some trace minerals (recently studied)

Metformin will disrupt B12 also.

So I do hope you are taking B12 supplements. Please use
methylcobalamin too, in case you are a poor methylator which is a DNA error.

There are foods that provide magnesium. Nuts (esp almonds), beans (both types legumes, soy Edamame), oatmeal and yogurt.
Eating lots of green leafy veggies, also, since magnesium is found in chlorophyll.

The chelates are fine. Magnesium oxide is not well absorbed, so avoid that.

Also you need to understand "elemental" . The final weight of the supplement, is only partly magnesium. Labels can be confusing. In the US they are starting to separate out the magnesium portion and that helps. So the RDA for an adult female is around 350mg elemental.
Example:
1000mg magnesium malate, typically has 150mg magnesium elemental in it. It is the 150mg you use to determine your dosing, not the total of 1000mg.

This is an example of a label from Doctor's Best brand:
http://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-A...best+magnesium
one of the little thumbnail photos shows the label ingredients.
So you can see 2 tablets of this provide 200mg elemental mag.

Of course, not 100% of magnesium (like calcium) are absorbed as well. Some is excreted in the stool. If you find yourself loose that means that the magnesium is not being 100% absorbed.
It is best to divide up doses therefore during the day.
The body has transporters in the intestines and they can be filled up so that not too much is absorbed at one time.

You should have kidney tests at least every 6mos because metformin can affect the kidneys. My doctor insists on this with that drug.

So a topical form may be best for you.
iherb.com ships to Australia
and has Kirkman magnesium cream:
http://www.iherb.com/Kirkman-Labs-Ma...oz-113-g/38169

Also iherb has the spray on liquid:
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health...236-6-ml/33840

This is their shipping information:
http://www.iherb.com/info/international

thanks again mrs d

have ordered some of the cream and some of the doc best magnesium as bang for buck it is much of a muchness as what i would pay for here and it is not adding to the postage. i am taking the R lipoic but dont know that i notice any effect or not. have been off it a week or so, meaning to do an order, so it will be interesting to see if i notice it one way or the other.
going into winter is as bad as going into summer for me.

i will be interested to see what the cream does and i got some spray while at iherb

i do supplement to probably make up for the Nexium.....but as a matter of curiosity i will go back, when i have my brain in gear, and look at the dating of the nexium start in relation to my latest style of arrythmias.
there could be a connection but a lot of last year is best forgotten and i have pretty much done that
it was interesting that the ER nurse read me the riot act for stopping mag.........whereas my cardiologist was all ho hum about it.
however it was the only drug they pumped into me as soon as the rhythm was seen on their screens.

i have one gene for haemacromatosis so dont need more iron.......havnt had any blood sucked out lately but i need to check for my iron levels as they were marginally up and i had 4 or 5 donations done a good while back.
zinc i take but not folate.
think i need to hit some vit b1 ?
am doing a *balanced B* and b12
forget my b12 levels buy last test they were way way over the labs normal range.
my GP and neuro are not unhappy about that and are encouraging of supplementation.

i really admire your capacity to take on board all this pharmaceutical info and science and distil it down for us.
you have a magic brain

thank you so much.

i will sort myself out and retry the lyrica also when i get to check if i do or do not have to titrate down off the gabapentin.

The Epsom is better than other lotions like Ancient Minerals? I am going to order on Amazon and several get good reviews. Just want to pick a good one.

I've never used the Ancient Minerals one...so I cannot say.

But the new Morton's Epsom is better than the CVS one that I still have some left of. It goes on easier, and works very fast compared to the CVS one which was discontinued. And it is 1/2 the price for the same 8oz size.

Thank you! Got it on Amazon.

How about trying one of each? Then you can review them HERE for us! Some folks on the PN forum have posted about Ancient Minerals in the past.

I just think a lotion would facilitate the magnesium thru the skin, rather than only water. When my CVS lotion is gone I was going to try the Ancient Minerals. But now I am not so motivated to do so.

Maybe I can. I will do this one first. Not sure if I need it but I will use some.