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07-05-2009, 10:34 PM | #11 | |||
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here ill do the work http://www.raysahelian.com/nattokinase.html
i think it's just some soybean aspirin stuff basically not for me, i may try butterbur, in fact, they put that in sinufix which is on my wishlist of things to get on iherb
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07-05-2009, 11:14 PM | #12 | |||
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the butterbur in sinufix is the one i was gonna look into, i don't really care for life extension products too much, plus look at the side they're advertising the products they are talkign about. i only trust products from iherb or jarrow or now products....they don't sell much life extension products on iherb.
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07-05-2009, 11:17 PM | #13 | |||
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here's the basis on what was said in that article about pharmaceutical or the safety of butterbur products:
Butterbur root should never be consumed directly from the plant, since it contains compounds called pyrrolizidine alkaloids that have may have hepatotoxic and carcinogenic effects.17 However, extracts that are prepared for human use are processed to remove these alkaloids. An independent evaluation of data gathered from various trials concluded that commercially marketed butterbur root extract is entirely safe for human consumption.26 A standardized butterbur extract has been used by more than half a million German citizens since its introduction in 1988, and the safety data are excellent.18 A dosage of 50-75 mg of standardized butterbur extract twice daily for up to four months has demonstrated efficacy in migraine prevention,17 while 50 mg twice daily has been used in the management of allergic rhinitis.17 No instances of overdose with butterbur have been reported in the scientific literature,17 but anyone who has a known allergy to plants in the Asteraceae family, such as ragweed or daisies, should consume butterbur with caution.
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07-06-2009, 04:04 AM | #14 | |||
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Well, one of the top headache clinics in this country, and the neurologists there use magnesium for many headache patients.
One thing that concerns me here, Bruegger, is that you have TWO diagnoses for headache. Cluster which is an extreme, type and seasonal and migraine? So you should be seeing an expert for proper treatment. I would make sure you are being diagnosed properly. The basic treatment for cluster today is high dose melatonin with medical supervision along with other agents. This link lists the possible treatments for this extreme disorder: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum A patient with cluster cannot treat themselves. This disorder is still being researched and the interventions for it require medical intervention. "Magnesium migraine" search on PubMed examples: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum Quote:
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And a concern with Nattokinsase is that it is predominately a BLOOD THINNER. You already take Lexapro, which is an SSRI and all SSRI's thin the blood. You cannot take drugs that thin the blood while using the Lexapro without blood tests to see what is happening with you in this regard.
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07-06-2009, 08:57 AM | #15 | |||
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aha so that's why i can't handle too much aspirin cause of my ssri.. i get some sorda allergic reaction to it sometimes. i don't really use it much anyways. and another thing is neurologists don't know anything, they don't know the difference between a cluster headache and migraine anyway. mostly my headaches are due to muscle tension(cluster) and increased sensation of the skin(migraine)
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07-06-2009, 09:54 AM | #16 | |||
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Cluster headaches are intense --so painful that there is a high suicide rate among those patients. The doctor described the pain as having a hot poker thru the eye. They are seasonal, and have periods of remission, with return during spring and fall. They are not tension headaches. Migraine is a vascular headache, involving blood vessels in the head. I do not think a psychiatrist is trained to handle the myriad differences in headache types. Giving the wrong name to an affliction, can be very misleading. This link from the speaker I just heard in May may be helpful for you. It discusses the different types of headache: http://books.google.com/books?id=FqS...esult&resnum=1 This is a long link but it is filled with very useful information. Scroll back and forth to read all the articles. Google only took me to the cluster portion. But you can read the whole thing by scrolling up and down. If you Google Dr. Newman you may find more. He was a really good speaker, and was very helpful to listen to. A tension headache is neither a migraine or cluster headache. monograph #8 discusses a tension headache.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | bruegger84 (07-06-2009), Vowel Lady (07-06-2009) |
07-06-2009, 10:03 AM | #17 | |||
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yes, i think you're right, thank you for the information, i think what i have is dystonia left over from the atypicals i used to take, which had been giving me cranial dystonais which lead me to the tension type headaches, and furthermore migraines when it gets bad, which explains why only 25 mg of topamax and 300 mg of gabapentin really works and helps them out.
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07-15-2009, 01:54 PM | #18 | |||
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and also do benzodiazepines also thing the blood?
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07-16-2009, 09:07 AM | #19 | |||
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Benzos are questionable. I have read that they can cause hemorrhages in the sclera of the eye in some people.
INR is the standard clotting test. Also platelet levels. This link explains ProTime and INR: http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...s/pt/test.html People combining certain herbs/supplements have to be careful about bleeding effects. For example there should be a sticker on your Lexapro stating not to use with NSAIDs or aspirin. That is a clear example of also watching for supplement interactions where bleeding is concerned.. There are so many, and also many not even tested yet! Before starting anything, Bruegger, you should look up the supplements carefully before taking them, since you are experimenting quite a bit with them. I have several good links in the stickies at the top of the forum, where you can look up risks of things.
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07-16-2009, 10:25 AM | #20 | |||
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that maryland website although helpful does not have many herbs listed.
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