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mymorgy 05-01-2010 06:10 PM

i don't know ...sometimes i take four when i am only supposed to take two.
maybe you were wrapped too tight and you needed the relief
bobby

waves 05-01-2010 06:56 PM

R o f l
 
Oh Mari you cracked me up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 650442)
So maybe it was not a good idea to up my dose by 30 percent.

Whoa. I've been shall we say r e l a x e d.
Maybe a bit stoned too.

Last night's dose of 3.0 is wearing off a little.
Maybe I'll just take 2.5 tonight, not sure.

I have to admit. it did seem like a big hop to me. it's 50% actually. (3.0 is 1.5 times 2.0) i almost suggested you go with just the 2.5, but i figure you would know best just what state you are in, and how Klonopin affects you. and i figured only 2 days would not be a big deal.

however, the stuff has an elimination half-life of around 30 hours... elimination/accumulation are such that:

-- if you only take 2.5 tonight, your peak level will still be higher than after yesterday's 3.0 dose, and will continue to increase slightly to steady state.

-- if you take 3.0 again tonight it will hike your level past what would be steady state for 2.5, so that as of tomorrow, when you go to 2.5, your peak levels will decrease, not increase, to steady state. (values of half life > 23 hrs produce this behavior.)

if it were me (which it isn't ;)), i would go with 2.5 tonight.

~ waves ~

Mari 05-02-2010 02:54 AM

Dear Waves.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 650459)
Oh Mari you cracked me up.



I have to admit. it did seem like a big hop to me. it's 50% actually.

I blame the math mistake on the extra klonopin. ;)
I would have gotten the math right otherwise. Right
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/22.gif


Anyway, I took 2.5 mgs tonight.

It feels like the right amount.

And maybe, as Bobby says, I really did need that 3.0 at the time.
It sure helped a lot.

M.

waves 05-02-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 650568)
I blame the math mistake on the extra klonopin. ;)
I would have gotten the math right otherwise. Right
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/22.gif

Hee hee! :D:D:D you are funny. love that grin smiley!
Quote:

Anyway, I took 2.5 mgs tonight.

It feels like the right amount.
cool. :)
Quote:

And maybe, as Bobby says, I really did need that 3.0 at the time.
It sure helped a lot.
i don't doubt it. also, the 3.0mg works as a loading dose - you will reach steady state relative to 2.5 dose a bit faster (desirable, considering how icky you were feeling) than if you had just upped to 2.5mg. ;)

i am really glad you are feeling better Mari. are you being able to get some sleep? i hope you have a good Sunday. :hug:

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 05-02-2010 03:21 PM

Mari
I can't even say for sure. But it sure sounds like you are in a lot better
mood.

I am so glad you had a medicine that you could use by upping.

Donna:grouphug:

Mari 05-05-2010 03:31 AM

'Feeling wound up tighter than a rattlesnake ready to strike.
If I weren't worried about driving, I might go into work with lots of Klonopin -- at least I would not have to worry about becoming uncoiled and upsetting someone.

I do have a pedicure and manicure appt to look forward to at 4:00.
I'll have to make sure I get out of work on time to make that.
. . . . working on finding a good mantra or something to calm down.

A few nights ago, during a long BS ceremony where I had to sit for a long time and pretend to be sane, I kept my hands on my lap in Chinmaya Mudrā (Yoga posture).
http://healing.about.com/od/healerne...dex/Mudras.htm


When I got to my office (and most folks had gone home) one of my friends was with me and I completely let out my tension. I am sooo glad that she has known me for a long time and can handle someone acting like they are at the end of their rope.
I did not even apologize to her. It was what it was.


M.

mymorgy 05-05-2010 05:21 AM

DO You know what is triggering this? I am so sorry. I don't know how you handle it when you have to be in public and can't allow yourself to break down if need be. It sounds as if a medication or medications aren't working at all. Do you want to change your medication or do you think you are headed for a major breakthru? that could be neat if you could live thru it
i am so sorry
bobby
as i have said i sometimes take four m of klonopin *I should only take two- and it doesn't touch my anxiety

waves 05-05-2010 06:15 AM

Dear Mari
 
please call your pdoc.

it is possible you will settle down with the new dosage in a while - but you had been on 2.0 for a long time. it seems unlikely (tho it is possible) that some sort of withdrawal syndrome caught up with you. the problem with benzos is that they do cause dependency and dose increase is periodically needed to achieve the same therapeutic effect. your pdoc may even want to increase you past 2.5mg. or he may consider adding something that isn't addictive the only thing i know of offhand is buspar.

i still think it would be good to touch base with him. he can't help you if he doesn't know you are hurting. :o

~ waves ~ wishing you well

Mari 05-05-2010 09:02 AM

Dear Bobby and Waves,

This is in large part related to sleep.

I slept from 5:00 am to 9:00 am last night and have meetings with the big boss and then with students today and lots of phone calls to handle.
My team is demoralized right now.

The pdoc can't make me sleep.
I already told him two or visits ago that I would not take any more meds than I already have -- so it would not matter what he gave me -- it's not a med problem..

Then I changed my mind and called back and tried the 3.0 lunesta twice and was totally hung over.

M.

bizi 05-05-2010 09:49 AM

what wre your hours of sleep? 5pm to 9 pm????
bizi


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