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I hope you check in soon Bobby.
I've been wondering where you are and how you are doing.

Kay

i have been going up and very down like a yo you. right now i am very down but not as down as i was yesterday and this morning. I spoke at length to two friends and they cheered me up. I have only lost two pounds on my apple diet..ie eat an apple in between meals. I still haven't decided to go to the psychiatrist this week or not. I don't think i want him to see me like this and right now i don't think he can help with a medication change.
bobby
I am feeling a little better now. I got a call back from post office finally that the book by winston churchill is on its way.
i also read this http://www.nutritionexpress.com/arti...le.aspx?id=907
it is about creatine and how it helps the muscles and it helps seniors. i heard about it on the radio this morning. i bought two bottles and some more vitamin d3

Now is the perfect time for you to see your pdoc- he should see you like this if you want him to make the right changes to your meds. Hiding your symptoms is not going to help you feel better, Bobby.

Hang in there :hug::hug::hug:
Kay

I am hanging in there. this is the worse time of year for me. it was made worse by my sister's death and learning that three other people died. One i wish i had made peace with. I am single and old...I can't get used to either although i just bought some creatine which might help my muscles. see i haven't give up. last night i was finally able to start reading a frivolous book.I have been dozing off and on, petting the kitty cats and reading. I am also very upset because abby is getting thinner and i think it is her crf. she is still jumping up on the bed a lot and wants more and more attention.
My doctor won't raise the dose of zoloft. I am up to 150 and he says there are sometimes psychotic symptoms at a higher dosage. I never had those so i won't fight him to increase the dosage.
My memory is sharp again and my thinking very clear so i wouldn't want to lose those two things again. I lost them with a higher dosage of risperdal and topamax. He cut me back on welbutrin the last time to see if that would take the edge off things. I don't think the welbutrin helps period.
hope you are having fun with your kitty cats.

I hope that you feel better.

Bobby,

There is a chance that the creatine affects mood:

http://link.springer.com/article/10....302-015-9446-7
Creatine, similarly to ketamine, affords antidepressant-like effects:

Quote:

These results indicate that creatine, similarly to ketamine, exhibits antidepressant-like effect in the TST probably
mediated by the activation of both adenosine A1 and A2A receptors, further reinforcing the potential of targeting
the purinergic system to the management of mood disorders.

thanks a lot. I didn't understand this The anti-immobility effect of creatine (1 mg/kg, po) or ketamine (a fast-acting antidepressant, 1 mg/kg, ip) in the TST was prevented by pretreatment of mice with caffeine (3 mg/kg, ip, nonselective adenosine receptor antagonist), 8-cyclopentyl-1,3-dipropylxanthine (DPCPX) (2 mg/kg, ip, selective adenosine A1 receptor antagonist), and 4-(2-[7-amino-2-{2-furyl}{1,2,4}triazolo-{2,3-a}{1,3,5}triazin-5-yl-amino]ethyl)-phenol (ZM241385) (1 mg/kg, ip, selective adenosine A2A receptor antagonist).
the part about the caffeine. I think ketamine is being used now for fast acting antidepressant but it may alter thinking.
it looks as if you have to wait four hours before having caffeine after creatine...strokes heart attacks etc

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Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1188861)

I am eating like a pig and now am really afraid to get on the scale. I eat so fast. I have so much anxiety. the clonopin isn't helping. I am so irritable. I am being provocative. yesterday i wound having to sit at another table. there is a guy named Mike who has such a strong voice I can hear him clearly when i am sitting at a table not near him. yesterday i was talking to a woman and could hardly hear her. I told him to please speak lower even though i knew there would be conflict. sure enough there was conflict and he spoke even louder.
then when they started singing christmas songs he boomed and i ran out.
I went to the rabbi's wife class last night and she was talking about Sarah and Rebecca. It was fascinating. before that i ate 1/2 pound of brie and prunes and a pint of turkey walnut cranberry salad. I couldn't control myself. I then threw it up. I ate a little something at the lecture. then when i came home i ate two pounds of mashed sweet potato. I really outdid myself. I go to the psychiatrist this morning and leave in a few minutes. I will tell him how anxious i am and how impatient i am. I shouldn't even been writing this but i feel so desperate.
I had one pleasant dream last night although it was filled with anxiety.
I dreamt of myra twice this week. four other people said that they also felt a part of them died when their sibling died even if they were not on good terms with them.
here goes...i will post this...i should be embarrassed but i feel so scared.
bobby

I have felt that way ad I'm not even bipolar. You sound like you're out of control. Like a train going down the track at 150 mph with no one at the controls. Slow down! Take things easier. Is there someone you can talk with? You sound kind of scared. What are you afraid of?

I'm glad your thinking and memory are sharp Bobby (that's something I miss at baseline). I hate to sound like a broken record, but if you're totally honest with your pdoc, he may be able to come up with a better med plan, different than the one you're on. Your anxiety certainly needs to be addressed.

You have been through so very much the last few months. Anxiety can present such challenges to how we react to life events, and the speed at which we can heal. And it can sabotage us, in forms such as binging.

I hope that the creatine can offer you a degree of the antidepressant benefits that Mari cited in her post.

Please be kind to yourself, and hang in there. You are stronger than you realize.
:hug::hug::hug:

Kay

I take klonopin three m a day. I have always suffered from anxiety. I am usually always scared. I have been in therapy but that doesn't help me. I speak to two bipolar friends on a regular basis and that helps big time.
This morning I woke up feeling tired but good for a big change. I cancelled my appt. I had a dream where i was arguing with a psychiatrist but not mine. He was worthless in the dream.
I just got good news. on the jury form which i am always worried about it says you don't have to serve if you are older than 70...ta.ta.
I think i can take new years better than xmas. i have no plans though.
i received a holiday card from my youngest nephew. that was great! it showed his whole family!
bobby

i don't know if i need a mood stabilizer like topamax which curbed my appetite but interfered a bit with memory. i just found out a while ago you are exempt from jury duty if you wish when you are seventy. Now my anxiety is sky high again with the great news. I also got a letter from the clinic to discuss my lab tests. since i gained 14 pounds i bet my diabetes and cholesterol is up. my blood pressure was up when they took it last time.
bobby