Good luck with the diet. I wouldn't make it with the diet. Veggies aren't
my favorite at all. I tolerate a few.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

hi kay,
I just wanted to chime in on the artificial sweeteners.
Please don't use them.
They are terrible for us and from what I read they don't help you to lose weight.
I use a liquid drops called stevia.
Sweet leaf makes it from a plant.
It is a bit sweet so test it out to see if you like it.
It does have a little different taste....hubby hates it.

my favorite is toffee. I get mine at our local health food store.

And actually the thing about sweeteners.
One packet of splenda equals 4 calories. one packet of sugar has 15 calories. So in the long run does it really make sense to use something artificial in our coffees?

In my opinion, if you must use artificial sweeteners then splenda is the one to use.

I hope you feel well enough to make it to the club today.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi
The cotton scrubs.
I really don't want to iron them....did yours have to be ironed?

The only reason I use any artificial sweeteners is because sugar
doesn't sweeten for me. Leaves it bitter tasting.

Is there an none flavored stevia. I've not run across this.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

oh yes donna there is a non flavored clear stevia. They're even in the regular stores usually in a green packet sometimes a white one. Not sure if sweet leaf is in the regular stores where you live. Health food stores even have colas sweetened with stevia.

I am sure you can order them on line.
bizi

Bizi,
What do you think about Truvia? I have a box of it in my cupboard. I tried it and didn't much enjoy it, but held on to it for a rainy day. Maybe I'll use it for the diet? Stevia is my second choice, but I know it is more expensive and harder to find. I have time to get it online though. I do not approve of the other sugar substitutes either.
Normally I would stick with regular sugar because I don't think that the small amount I use in my coffee makes a difference, but the purpose of the diet is to reduce cravings for refined sugars and get used to living without "bad carbs" like that. You can add some things like that back in moderation in phase 2 & 3 of the diet, and I will be adding the sugar back to my coffee.

I never, ever ironed my cotton scrubs. If they came out wrinkly at all, I would throw them back in the dryer with a wet face cloth and an extra dryer sheet for a few minutes. Just smooth them out when they come out of the dryer and hang them up or fold them immediately and you'll be fine.


I did go to the club and was able to work in the kitchen. I prepped and filleted at least 30 chicken breasts. Everyone always comments on how well I do, I like doing stuff like that, and I like contributing, so it is rewarding work.

Next month is recreation month. Betty knows I make candles, and had asked if I would be interested in showing some of the other members how to make them. Initially I thought it was a bad idea because I don't have enough equipment, and it would be expensive. But I've been thinking about it, and it would be pretty cheap and easy to show them how to do tea lights. She still has some expectations that are unreasonable, and I don't want to have to pay for the supplies my self, so we'll see. I will have to speak to a guy named Nick who I have never met about it.

I did end up eating lunch and spent a long time talking to a woman named Melissa (well, she did most of the talking). She wants to be friends. She is very nice, but has a lot of problems, and I can't see our friendship branching outside of the club though. I will have to be very careful not to hurt her feelings.


My leasing office is trying to renew leases online now using electronic signatures. First we had to choose our lease extension, then we were sent a link to our resident portal account to "view" the lease. After I quickly viewed it and signed out, I couldn't view it again. I called the leasing office to let them know, and they sent another link that didn't work. They sent it again, and I electronically signed it, but my husband couldn't. They finally left a paper copy for us to sign yesterday. What a hassle. I'm going to need copies for my records… I wonder how long I'll have to wait for that.

good morning kay.:)

Not sure about the truvia, I think that does have stevia in it...look at the box ingredients list to be sure. Hubby hates stevia and all sweeteners. He uses 1` 1/2 teaspoons of sugar and only has one cup.

I am sure that your south beach diet doesn't want you eating cookies, cake or pie for that matter. same with sugary drinks even juices are a no no I believe. Maybe tomato juice is allowed?
5 cups of coffee with a packet of sugar equals the amount of calories in a smallish apple 75 calories.

I am so happy that you went to the center.
Making candles for them would be really nice!

Did you end up eating the chicken breast? How did they fix it?

Did they raise your rent?
just curious with the new lease and all.

Have a very nice day kay.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Kay and Bizi,

Here is Wikipedia's page on Truvia

Truvia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is a Coca Cola product.
Apparently some people have GI trouble with it.


The EU approved it -- and they have much stricter regulations than the US does:

=-=-=-=
I first used Stevia when I made coconut flour cookies for hubby.
We were both happy to have the option to make "sweets" that did not affect blood sugar.

M

from mari's link
bizi

K

You like to cook and you like helping people -- cool that you can handle chicken breasts like that for a good number of people.

Hearing about you and Melissa --- sounds sweet.

The Atkins plan (did it twice I think) has you thinking of things you would not ordinarily buy like brie cheese.

That lease stuff would be too much in the state that I have been in for years now.. And every year hubby would get even more anxious than I did so it was not a fun period.
I hope you get the photocopy in reasonable time.

That could be fun making candles, as long as they are budgeting for it.
Would you use sandalwood or something else?

M

I did some checking up on Truvia. Coca-Cola makes it, and can barely get away with saying it is natural by saying it has stevia in it. They have been sued for false advertisement (I don't know the outcome) because it actually has a very small amount of stevia (extract of some kind) in it. It's very heavy in erythritol, a sugar alcohol. It's calorie free because our bodies can't digest it (like other artificial sweeteners), hence the GI upset.
I've decided I'm going the stevia route. I'm going to order some off Amazon if I can't get it in my supermarket.
The diet is very, very restrictive. No fruits, starchy veggies (like corn, carrots, peas, potatoes of any kind etc), no bread, pasta, cereals, or rice in phase 1. Certain cuts of meat, dairy products, most condiments, and some oils are out too. No baked goods, and no alcohol at all. Thankfully there is a list of approved foods, and one for no-no's. Tomato juice and V8 are allowed. It's good to have directions, but something not too, too rigid. I considered the Atkins diet, but I don't think I could handle the counting and weighing required.

When I went to the leasing office to turn in the paper lease, the lady there did not want to accept it, and gave me a rash of **** because we couldn't finish it electronically. She said that my husband couldn't sign it because he was supposed to do it separately on his own "resident portal" account, which he does not have. She said that's how they recognize residents. I told her that was asinine. She said it was necessary to have 2 accounts because they renew leases electronically now. We've never had more than one account because we're on the same lease and only use the portal to pay rent. We were never told we needed separate accounts before our lease was up for renewal, or when I called and told them I was having issues. She was such a *****, I swear I could have whacked her. I told her the lease I gave her should be acceptable, I wanted a copy for my records once management signed off on it, and we would worry about next year's lease next year. I had taken my klonopin and I was perfectly calm, but firm. There were other people in the office, and she's the one who looked like an ***hole.
Of course our rent did go up $50… not happy because the apt. is not worth it. We've been here 6 1/2 years now. I wish we had the money to move. We could find a much better apartment for the rent we pay.

My husband has told me that my father-in-law isn't really upset with me because I wasn't at Father's Day breakfast and to let it go, but he was wrong. My father-in-law has been too busy to take my texts since then until yesterday when he told me he was upset with me because I should have been there, and he doesn't care why I wasn't.
I tried again to explain to him why I didn't come, and said we should do something that doesn't involve my sister-in-law, so that there wouldn't be any issue with us seeing one another. He is adamant that we are family and doesn't accept the fact that my sister-in-law and I don't see one another. I told him to please stay out of that, and not to mention it to my husband or sister-in-law.
When my husband came home he said that my father-in-law had texted him and was "dying to come over," and would be coming over today (Thursday is kind of an odd day?). I'm looking forward to seeing him. I just hope he doesn't bring up the subject of my relationship/lack of relationship with my sister-in-law because my husband will get ****** and think his interference will make matters worse.

I picked today to do my laundry and I was fortunate enough to get in the laundry room first this morning ;)
I am behind on my housework because I went to the club Tuesday. I wasn't expecting a visitor, so I'm going to have to rush around to get a bunch of things done before he gets here and I'll be missing my afternoon nap :eek:

I mentioned to my husband that I don't have anything on hand to cook for 3 people. He said not to worry about it because my father-in-law won't be staying long, but my husband is often wrong. My father-in-law likes to talk and enjoys spending time with us. I'm not screwing around. I'm just going to text him and ask if he expects to stay for dinner.

Sounds like a good idea to text and ask.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

Well I hope you had a nice visit....and that he was well behaved.
hoping that you are ok about the visit.
bizi

We had a very nice visit :)
Lots of good conversation, and it was as if nothing had ever happened. He is very easy going.
My father-in-law was impressed with my new coffee machine and was excited and impressed by the iced coffee I made for him (it does taste better than what you get at the drive through). He loves tech, and usually ends up getting whatever my husband has, so I bet he'll be buying one of his own when he returns to Florida. He buys a lot of iced coffees and would end up saving a lot of money, and he likes saving money :)
He stayed away from taboo issues, at least in front of me.

My husband's vacation starts when he gets home from work today. He'll be off until the 11th. He needs a vacation and I'm looking forward to spending more time with him. We usually go away because the 9th is his birthday, the 10th is our anniversary, and my birthday is the 11th. Last year I was in no shape to go anywhere, and this year we can't afford to go away. We don't usually vacation the week of the 4th, and his mother expects him to go over for the holiday, and show up at some point to celebrate his birthday, too. They've also been expecting him to do a lot of yard work and handyman tasks lately as well. I asked him last night if he'd be spending a lot of time over there in the upcoming week…
He told me he had already decided that if he was going over there, he was bringing me because, "this has gone on long enough, and we have to break the ice at some point." I think my father-in-law had a talk with him. My husband walked him in and out of the apartment and they were gone for a while both times.

Apparently my husband's mother wants to see me, but my he doesn't know how his sister or step father feel because he simply hasn't talked to either of them about it in a long time. His plan is just to show up with me. I told him I wasn't comfortable with that. He has had a long time to work this out…. he can take 5 minutes to make a phone call to ask if it's okay for me to come. A surprise visit isn't fair to anyone, including me.

I'm not even going to go over the list of **** I had to get done to get the apartment visitor-ready (to my satisfaction) yesterday, but I had at least 7 cups of coffee to help push through it and bypass my nap. I was exhausted, but I has trouble sleeping last night (rare) because I was worrying about dealing with my husband's family again, and worrying that it will probably be under less than desirable circumstances because my husband probably won't handle things well beforehand. My anxiety is going up again. It was sky high this morning. But I'm going to have to deal with this **** eventually. Maybe I'll feel better afterwards?

I didn't get nearly enough sleep to make up for all of yesterday's activity. When I push it too much my MS acts up, and it's not just the fatigue. I should do some food shopping this morning, since later today and tomorrow the supermarket will be a horror show because of the upcoming holiday. I just need to motivate myself. I will reward myself with an early nap if I get the grocery shopping over with by noon (that's being pretty generous). I'm sure I will need at least 1/2mg of klonopin to quiet my mind before I lay down, but I need the rest, and I'm sure it will be a long nap.

happy about your visit!
yes you need a nap, I think the 7 cups of coffee probably interferred with your sleep last night unfortunately.
I hope you get in a good nap today!
Good luck shopping, be careful.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Coffee, no matter how much, usually doesn't interfere with my sleep. If I'm really tired, I can go back to sleep in the am after 5-6 cups no problem. I think it was anxiety because my mind wouldn't shut off. My anxiety isn't quite as bad this morning, but it's still "not good."

I did end up going to the butcher shop, to buy lottery tickets, and food shopping, but I shouldn't have been out because I was a little out of it. The supermarket was a horror show by the time I got there. The lines were unbelievably long! I skipped my nap because I watched the news for a while and it got late. Then I thought if I laid down it would end up being a marathon nap.

I'm going to the local ice cream shop to order our traditional anniversary/birthdays cake today. It will be much better than the ones I have bought from the freezer case at the supermarket in the past. We will work on it for a while.

I'm going to enjoy some things that I will not be having for a while because of the diet. Somethings I may not be eating at all again if I decided to follow through to stage 3. Hopefully I don't gain a bunch of weight before the diet because of that lol.
My husband told me last night he wants to do a less rigid version of the diet with me to make things easier to manage… minus the alcohol restriction of course. I think he is interested in losing some weight, too.

I will wish you happy birthday and happy anniversary since I don't know the dates.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Thank you Bizi! :)

My husband's birthday is the 9th, our anniversary is the 10th, and my birthday is the 11th. I ordered the ice cream cake yesterday… all chocolate ice cream per my husband's request. I'm going to pick it up tomorrow.

My husband said he isn't going to his mother's today, which is surprising. I find it hard to believe she didn't ask him to, but that's what I was told. He had told me if he was going over there, he was taking me. Maybe he asked and it didn't go over well, or maybe he just declined the invitation because he didn't want to deal with it. IDK…
I'm sure at the very least his mother will want to see him next weekend because of his birthday though. I don't know how that mess will work out. Honestly, I'd rather not go.
He is having breakfast with his father, and possibly his sister, this morning and I wasn't invited, so obviously he still hasn't had a discussion with his sister about me yet. I just kissed him goodbye and didn't say a word about it.

I made a point of asking him if he would be home for lunch because I had to pull hamburger out of the freezer. He said he was only going out for breakfast. We'll see… I have a feeling he may end up at his mother's after all.

I think because of the holiday the laundry room will be empty, so maybe I'll get a couple of loads done.

(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

My husband came home after breakfast (his sister didn't end up going) and didn't go to his mother's, so I was happy. He had a rather late breakfast so was too full for lunch though.

I didn't do laundry. I can save that for later in the week.

My husband has a physical today required by the Department of Transportation because he has to renew some of his licenses for work. He's been up since 5am and feels like ****. He wants to reschedule, but if he misses the deadline (his birthday the 9th), he won't be licensed for x period of time, and will have to sit for exams to get the licenses reinstated. So I told him I'm not even going to try to call and move the appointment- he will have to suck it up. For some reason I'm going with him.

I have a number of errands to get done after that. They should keep me busy for a while. I filled my pill minder last night and was shocked I don't need to refill anything until Saturday… happy not to have to deal with the pharmacy until then. I have to pick up some bread, etc so I'm going to try to see if my local supermarket has stevia while I'm out and about. I put off ordering it online and I don't think it will be here before I start my diet if I order it now.

I hope you have a nice day.
(((((HUGS))))
bizi

Kay,

You have a good attitude with his family. I am glad to hear that you seem
to be o.k. with what is happening with them.

Good that he went for his physical.

I hope you find your stevia. Are you planning on using it for coffee? Anything else?

M

I know that my husband's mother wants to see and/or talk to me, but he hasn't talked about the issue with his step father or sister which makes me wonder if the problem is their's or his. I've finally managed to mind **** myself into believing this isn't worth worrying about at this point, so my anxiety is lower.

My husband's physical went well. I'm surprised they didn't find anything because he doesn't take care of himself and never goes to the doctor.

When we got home we had to get all his certifications copied to send off with his application. He couldn't find some of the things he needed right away so he lost his **** and took it out on me. Eventually he found everything, I made the copies, and was happy to leave to run errands…

I made the appointment and went with him (which was unnecessary), made all the copies, wrote out the check, and mailed the ****ing the application (which required me to go into the post office) and never got an apology for his behavior when I got home. I called him on it and was not satisfied with his response.

Running errands was no fun either. It was a **** day in general.

The plan is/was to only use stevia in my coffee. I bought a small package of "Stevia in the Raw" (the only brand they sell in my grocery store) yesterday and tried it in my coffee this morning… YUCK!!! It doesn't taste very good, the aftertaste is absolutely horrible and it lingers. I also tried a cup with the Truvia I already had on hand. It's not great, but it's more tolerable and it's possible I could get used to it, or use it to transition to coffee without sugar.
I'm still interested in stevia. I'm going to look at online reviews… I will look for a site that recognizes Stevia in the Raw's awful aftertaste and hopefully recommends a brand that doesn't have that.

I use sweet leaf liquid drops....I am sure you could get a bottle and try it. I only use it in my coffee, but have also sweetened water to drink while watching tv as an alternative to beer.
like I said there are really not that many calories in a packet of sugar, the real thing.
bizi

I would just put regular sugar in my coffee, but the point of the diet is to stop cravings for "bad carbs" like that in phase 1 and I really do get cravings for other sugary things. So, it's not really about the calories and I'm going all-in.

I did some research on different brands of stevia and it came down to Sweet Leaf and NuNatural's NuStevia. I bought a 100 count package of NuStevia because reviewers noted more consistently that it has no aftertaste... We'll see. If it doesn't work out I'll always have the Truvia to fall back on, or maybe just get used to unsweetened coffee.


Last night my husband had the gall to ask me why I have an attitude problem lately. I guess I've been "making faces" when he asks me to do things... Trust me, if every time you got up your husband asked you to get him a beer, and he averaged 18 beers a night, you'd be rolling your eyes, too. I told him I wasn't aware I was making faces, but if I was, it was probably because he was asking too much of me.

I called him out on the incident over the application, but it's not just that. I just can't seem to say or do anything right. He's just been miserable.

Gosh that is alot of beer.
I wish it were easier for you
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

It IS a lot of beer, and he usually drinks SO fast… For some reason 18 seems to be the magic number. He bought a 24 pack yesterday and there's only 7 beers left in the fridge this morning, so he drank 17 last night. It's upsetting. I should just stop counting.

He paced himself last night though and didn't pass out early. He was in a good mood all day yesterday, and we had a nice night playing cribbage together :)

My husband and I had talked about going to dinner for our anniversary, but it's on Sunday, so yesterday I suggested going to lunch instead. He said he was thinking the same thing, too. He told me that his mother had invited him to lunch on the same day to celebrate his birthday, but he said he declined because of our anniversary. He said he was ****** at her for even asking because she knows it's our anniversary, so it was an unreasonable request. I asked why she didn't want to take him out to lunch tomorrow (his actual birthday) instead, and he said he didn't know… maybe she had to work.

I'm getting really tired of all the mystery and controversy surrounding his family BS, and his playing dumb. I admit that in an attempt to get more clarity, I peeked at his phone this morning as he slept to look at his text messages (he gets a lot). I guess he was concerned about just that, because it's clear that he intentionally deleted large portions of conversations.
He's saved a lot of text threads, but there are no texts between him and his sister on his phone at all. It makes me wonder why he didn't just delete all the threads, and why he felt the needed to delete so much text.

But he ****ed up and didn't delete the conversation about lunch with his mother though. He accepted the invitation on Wednesday. Shortly after I talked to him yesterday about us having lunch on Sunday, he texted his mother back and told her he was sorry he couldn't make it because he forgot it was our anniversary…

He knew it was our anniversary when he accepted her invitation. His birthday's the 9th (tomorrow/Saturday), our anniversary's the 10th (Sunday), and my birthday's the 11th (Monday) and we've been married for 9 years. There's no way he forgot. At the time he accepted his mother's invitation, we hadn't solidified any plans to celebrate our anniversary, and he probably thought going to lunch with her wasn't a big deal. There is no way that he would go out twice in the same day. My take is our anniversary was not important to him at the time.

That aside, there was no need for him to mention his mother's invitation to me since he had declined it. He certainly didn't have to make her out to be the bad guy (I wonder how many times I have been the bad guy?).
For the record, I was not upset with my mother-in-law for inviting my husband to lunch on our anniversary, but had he gone, I would have been bull****.

So, he's full of ****, and that just makes me all the more curious.

I kind of feel like he is telling you white lies.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

My father-in-law texted my husband yesterday wanting to come over today. When my husband told him no, he laid on a big guilt trip. Then he started texting me with the same intent. He said he should have just mailed us our cards, etc. He's not leaving for Florida until the 17th. I reminded him it was only the 9th, and I told him that we used to go away every year to celebrate our birthdays and anniversary, but last year I wasn't well enough, and this year we couldn't afford it. And I said that our anniversaries are more important to us now… "sorry we couldn't make Sunday work for (him)". He apologized and cut the ****. He can stop by for coffee some day after my husband gets home from work if he wants to, but I didn't set any date or time. Saying yes or no to the visit was up to my husband, but I did agree with his answer. I did not appreciate my father-in-law's manipulation when he didn't get his own way. This sort of behavior is new for him, and I don't like it.

My husband did go out to lunch with his mother yesterday to celebrate his birthday and he had a nice time. I made him toast in the morning because that is all he wanted, and I roasted a pork tenderloin and made yukon gold mashed potatoes with homemade gravy for dinner (no veggies because that is his preference). It came out very good. We watched Black Mass last night because it premiered on cable. It was a good movie. We know a lot of about that SOB because we're from the Boston area. Of course they took a little dramatic license.

We got into a spat before bed. It was 59 degrees out. Having the window open was not enough for him. He wanted the huge ****ing cyclone fan on, too. I had to shut the door in the living room hours earlier because I was freezing (even though I always have to wear a thick sweatshirt inside all the time because he likes the room temp so cool). He said I only cared about myself and the argument ruined his birthday. He had a temper tantrum and got his own way (per usual) and I froze last night.

I wonder what kind of mood he will wake up in today?

The plan is to go out for Japanese food for lunch.

Happy birthday my sweet friend!!!!!!!!


Is your air conditioner not working?
59 is chilly!
((((HUGS))))
it was cooler here last night maybe down to 80 and not as much humidity which was really nice. It had rained during the day and that helped.
bizi

Thank you Bizi :) I'm 36 today.

The cool air from the living room AC that's built into the wall never makes it into the bedroom. We can't put one into the bedroom window because it opens horizontally.

My husband has slept like **** for the last 2/3 nights. One of those nights he only had a couple of beers, and last night he didn't drink at all, and I think that had a lot to do with it. He's used to going to bed loaded and can sleep through just about anything…
Friday night I guess he was hot and I woke him up when I came to bed, and then when I got up later to use the bathroom. Then last night it was the cats. He had a couple of temper tantrums that woke me up both nights, then the cats woke me up this morning because he left an empty shoe box at the end of the bed.

I put a little more effort into my hair yesterday, put on some make up (which I never do), and dressed nicely (my husband complimented me on my appearance). We had a nice lunch. We went to a Japanese hibachi restaurant. The food was very good, but it would have been better if they didn't put so much sauce on everything. We sat with a man, his two children, and their grandparents. It's fun to watch the little ones' reactions at those places. The kids were really cute and well behaved, too.

My husband was in a pretty good mood up until bedtime. It was a quiet day. I tried to hold off on my nap because I didn't want to waste the day, but I couldn't. At least I somehow managed to reign it in to 1 1/2 hours by setting 3 different alarms on my phone. I was able to skip my nap on his birthday though.

I was going to make a chicken pie last night because it's one of my husband's favorites, but we ate a late lunch. So, I made BLT's instead. I guess I'm making the chicken pie tonight. I bought a rotisserie chicken at the supermarket to make things easier on myself though. It will be my birthday dinner and last one pre-diet… not what I would have picked :(

Hibachi grills are fun! and usually the food is good albeit salty.

What would you like for your birthday meal?
I will " make" it for you.:D
bizi

:) I usually order pizza.

So, I decided I'm going to make an admission…

My mind **** has failed me and I'm still having issues with heightened anxiety. My intrusive thoughts are particularly concerning. I'm taking more klonopin. It's been a long time since I've taken this much klonopin. It's not effective for the OCD symptoms, which is no surprise to me, but at least it's helpful for the GAD.

I see my pdoc Wednesday, but I almost took an extra 50mg of seroquel last night because of the intrusive thoughts. That is probably what she is going to recommend, but I decided to hold off because I'm not in danger, just disturbed, and it's not a mood issue. No, I'm not suicidal.

That 50mg will put me at the max dose of 800mg of seroquel and I don't like the idea of that, but oh well. I hope that taking it at night is effective and I don't have to risk any further am sedation. Sometimes seroquel doesn't carry over well into the am for certain symptoms, which is exactly why I have to take some in the am now.

If I can't have it totally my way, I'll settle for it just working, period. I don't want to have to add another med. I do see the eventuality of that though because these symptoms continue to break through.

I am sorry for the intrusive thoughts.:(
Glad that you see her wednesday. Tell her everything.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

:pizza::pizza::pizza:
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Kay,

Sorry to hear that you are going through that.

I hope that the doc can help you.


M

Thank you ladies :grouphug:

It's a real **** birthday...

My husband went to pay the bills when he got home and found our checking account was drained. We looked online and there were just tons of $200 ATM hits today. They left us with just under $300 in the account (not nearly enough to pay the bills).

We didn't know who's card it was- his or mine. While I was on the phone with customer service, the bank's fraud department called my husband's cell phone. Apparently it was his card info that was stolen and the cash was being withdrawn in D.C. (we live 20 min from Boston). I guess there were smaller purchases made with the credit card feature that the fraud department can see, but we aren't able to view them online yet. Hopefully we don't lose more money due to that.

The card is cancelled, and the fraud report filed, but we have no idea when we'll get the money back, or if we'll get it all back.

My husband had to transfer more money from savings to pay the bills, but of course it's hard to do that when the Internet is down AGAIN.

I don't know if I can go grocery shopping or not tomorrow...

:(:(:(

i am so sorry. what a nightmare

when this happened to us the banker said it happened everyday.
they returned all of our money...not sure how timely that happened but they will return it all.
(((((HUGS)))))
I am so sorry that this happened to you.
bizi

Frustrating!
'So sorry to hear that, Kay.
I hope that they recover the money.



M

I'm sorry you had to go through this too, Bizi :hug:
I know your husband's identity was stolen Mari, and that's a hell of a lot worse :hug:

Whoever did this is a special kind of asshole because after the first withdrawal I'm sure they saw our available balance and knew they were stealing from people without much money, and they did it anyway :(

My husband ended up filing two fraud reports to be safe. One for the cash withdrawals and one for the credit card transactions. For some reason, he is supposed to call customer service back today to verify the fraud reports using the claim numbers. He wants me to do it, and I will try, but I think they will tell me they have to hear from him. He requested his card be cancelled and had it verified. His new card is on its way.

He got another call because he went online, transferred that money from savings to checking, and paid a bunch of bills. They wanted to verify that it was him.

He didn't have a card with a chip, but that doesn't matter because most of the retailers in our area don't have chip readers yet. He's not going to use his debit card at all anymore except to withdraw money, and he's only using bank ATM's. He hasn't put any restrictions on my use yet though.

I almost withdrew money from the ATM yesterday to get a 20 to put on the laundry card, but had a 10 on me and decided that would do. Had I used the ATM and seen less than $300 in the account, I would have gone absolutely nuts. I have no access to our online account and my husband was unreachable where he was working yesterday… I'm very happy I decided against using the ATM for that reason.
My husband was beside himself. He wasn't exactly calm, but he didn't totally flip out or start throwing things like I would expect. I was proud of him for how he handled the situation, and told him so. I also thanked him for it because I don't think I would have handled his temper well.

There was a little levity… he said he felt bad for me for having to cook on my birthday until he tasted the chicken pie. It did turn out particularly good. He had offered me my usual pizza, but that was before we found out about our money situation.

I had already taken 2.5mg out of my allowed 3mg of klonopin a day come bedtime, and the 700 mg of seroquel I take is pretty sedating, but I took the other 1/2mg to knock myself the **** out. I was ready to have the day over with. I didn't need want to risk any anxiety causing insomnia.

Since I don't have access to the online account, I'll have to call, check our balance, and deduct the amount of outstanding bill payments before I decide if I can go grocery shopping or not. I don't know if those c/c purchases will be deducted from our account, too.


My father-in-law didn't wish me happy birthday yesterday. I suppose he's ****** at me for telling him why we would not be seeing him on our anniversary. One of my aunts wished me a happy 4th of July, but no birthday text. Also none from my brother or cousin. My father called, my sister texted me, and my other aunt texted and sent a beautiful card. Both my mother-in-law and my husband's step father texted me too, which was a nice surprise given the messy family situation.

It's a new day. Hopefully a much better one. Thank you for "listening."