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megveg 07-29-2008 04:38 PM

im back from the pdoc.

hes kinda mean. like i felt like i was intruding on his space and he didnt really want me there. i wrote out what i was feeling and why i was upset and he kept interrupting me and i was getting kinda mad. i thought he was supposed to listen to me and help? i felt like he had his own adgenda and i was wrong in trying to tell him things and he was like no no no this is what were talking about.

and near the end he was like, okay im gonna stop you and tell you about seeing a psychatrist. heres a perscription for xanax (alprazolam) and sent me on my way, if i needed someone to talk to and listen i woulda saved myself the copay and talked here.

he flat out said hes not gonna be enough for me and that at times ill feel abandoned by him and ill be mad, why would i want a pdoc that admits hes not gonna be there when i need him? is this supposed to happen? or is this a step in the direction that everyone says they see a bunch of doctors before they get diagnosed? i feel like ive already been diagnosed tho... i have anxiety and panic attacks and he gave me meds for that...he made me feel like my issues arent important and that by giving me medication, he can shut me up and be all set.

am i supposed to feel like this? i have another appointment on friday at 2pm.

ekrgljrwgjwtrvglwhr help someone :(

DiMarie 07-29-2008 05:18 PM

Hi Sparrow.
Unfortunalty I think the majority of the higher the title as in the ones that perscribs meds are the ones that it is black and white and they write the scripts. He identifys a problem, starts medication to get the patient focused and then the structure of how to treat starts.

In my daughters case, she is 12 and the Pdoc, wanted to med her, she refuses, it is grief and bullying causing schoolphobic and anxiety. So the Pdoc gave a dagx, with med and advised em to get her a medical card and behavioral therapist to help her reasociate back to social experiances.

from your post I see why she did not talk more and loosly had a format your doc did, but asked questions quickly when she had past medical history and IEP from school....which she did not read prior to the appointment.

My PCP has provided my meds, and then I followed up with a counsleing center, She is a doctor but not give meds, has gone through some of what I did.
I think this is step one, as he said you need more then he can work at ie) meds. You do need "us", lol, but someone more then us that has training in how to do more then identify issues, but knowing you face to face can advise how to move through it with techniques they use. Mine are bio-feedback, sleeping patterns, working with chronic pain.

My daughter is reintroducing the socialization, The Pdoc, nor I can give her as much help as someone trained. I have started with letting her stay overnight at my sons and dil's. They take her to the mall, she even got her ears pierced. Phobic to doc's dentist, med's and needles.

This is your first step, the medication is a good help. I guess he thinks for episods take xanax. Long term something else is better to take everyday, especially with school and studying.
I would call the no. on the back of the card if he did not recommend another doc to follow up. Ask them about therapist. You may want to try one or two, depending on finding the right fit.
I would see the PCP if you have not yet though. That way they know all my meds and make sure they don't interact with each other.

You have a good start. I don;t know the strength of xanax, but when I took it for panic attacks from flying, and long trips it made me a high feeling. The ativan I saw helped for day to day. The xanax, for heavy meltdowns. If that makes sense.
Lexapro works better for me in focusing. Effexor I had difficulty with, and paxil. My daughter had diabetes from cymbalta. It is all individule though.
It will work out, but heal yourself, use the most of your energy with that. School is only weeks away. I am so excited for you.
di
:hug:

Mari 07-29-2008 05:19 PM

Get back on the phone and find a new pdoc
 
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Originally Posted by megveg (Post 334705)
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and near the end he was like, okay im gonna stop you and tell you about seeing a psychatrist. heres a perscription for xanax (alprazolam) and sent me on my way, if i needed someone to talk to and listen i woulda saved myself the copay and talked here.

he flat out said hes not gonna be enough for me and that at times ill feel abandoned by him and ill be mad,

Hi,
He can't really deal with you.
Also, Xanax is just a bandaid.

Keep daily short notes on a calendar or note book about how you feel on it.
You might need someone who can give you better meds.


Here's the thing. For lots of people, Xanax is probably enough. So pdocs give it out and wait and see what happens. If the patient comes back with more complaints, then the pdoc can see that they need more than Xanax.

M.

Mari 07-29-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by megveg (Post 334705)

am i supposed to feel like this? i have another appointment on friday at 2pm.

ekrgljrwgjwtrvglwhr help someone :(

How long are you scheduled for 2:00 p.m.? A whole hour? 15 minutes?


--> A few psychiatrists do talk (listening) and meds (listening).

--> Most psyschiatrists mostly do meds (no listening).

--> Therapists and counselors do talk (listening).

What does this guy do?

Mari

megveg 07-29-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 334743)


How long are you scheduled for 2:00 p.m.? A whole hour? 15 minutes.


--> A few psychiatrists do talk (listening) and meds (listening).

--> Most psyschiatrists mostly do meds (no listening).

--> Therapists and counselors do talk (listening).

What does this guy do?

Mari

I'm scheduled for an hour. He kept interrupting me as I was trying to explain how I felt and for a little I felt like he was talking but if he's saying he can't be there I feel like he doesn't wanna just listen, he wants to give me meds, shut me up and force me to find someone else to listen.


how do i go about finding just a psychologist/therapist? are those the same thing? everything is getting overwhelming, i thought today was gonna help me not make me more anxious jngkjrtngkvbejt:(

bizi 07-29-2008 11:06 PM

Mari is right.
Pdocs prescribe the meds,
therapists do the talking.
There are pdocs that do both but he is letting you know that he is not one of them.
Since you have seen him once see how it goes on friday.
Please be patient with yourself in all of this....it is hard going thru all of your history...bringing up issues, reliving those feelings.
It sounds like you did well to bring in stuff with you.
YOu are making steps in the right direction.
THis is wonderful!
hang in there....
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi



www.MOODGYM.ANU.EDU.AU is web site based on Cognitive Behavior Therapy.
It walks you through some feeling/thought retraining if you are depressed or anxious.

megveg 07-30-2008 06:11 PM

So I took my first xanax last night around 6ish. I felt VERY woosy and had what I call the 'hot tub feeling' like the feeling of going from really hot to colderish and your legs are all wobbly and you feel dehydrated and weak and dizzy. I didnt notice it right away cuz i was sitting on my bed with my laptop and i got up and almost lost my balance i was like 'woah i need to stand up' and i walked down the hall way and almost had to reach for the wall to stand up. Its like the feeling when your legs fall asleep and you cant stand on them well cuz theyre still tingly.

Its working better than the ativan I got when I was in the ER. The ativan stopped me from having panic attacks, but I had my pre-panix attack anxiety and racing thoughts and difficulty breathing, and instead of pre-panic for 15 mins, then a full panic attack, it was a 3-4 hour stretch of pre-panic and it was so awful I was BEGGING for a panic attack because the way I felt, a 25 min panic attack would be welcome relief compared to hours of anxiety waiting for a panic attack to end it that would never come. The ativan also made me VERY drowsy and I couldn't drive on it which made me even more anxious. With the xanax, I feel woosy/drowsy for like maybe 20-25 mins and then im fine. S I think the meds are helping, just the doctor isn't.

I slept till 1pm today. Mike asked me last night to call and wake him up ( i like doing it for some reason) and I called him tons of times, but his phone was on 'alarm only' by accident so he didnt get anything and I was worried because he needed to be up at 5:30a and out the door to be at the work site at 6:30....well I find out his mom woke up up at 6:30 (his usual wake up time). SO he was wicked late and I feel terrible but it wasnt my fault, and he didnt tell his mom when he needed to be up. I dont feel responsible I just feel bad that he was late.

I restarted a journal online. I used to use a site called Blurty (like livejournal) and I wrote in it anything and everything, and a few people I knew would read it and comment. I kinda want people from on here to comment on mine. I have it set to friends only so not everyone can read all my posts and I was hoping people here who were interested would like to read it and comment. If people aren't into the whole signing up for a username just to respond, then I could set it so everyone can read them and respond (it would come up anon so youd have to leave who you are)

If anyone is interested in following me along, please let me know. Theres a link to my journal in my signature. ( I hope you like the layout and stuff, I love designing them and the layout will probably change often cuz I love doing HTML) I would love to have comments from people who understand. :hug:

bizi 07-30-2008 08:56 PM

Well I went to your site and could not figure out how to register....
I am not very computer savy though.....:rolleyes:
bizi

megveg 07-30-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bizi (Post 335811)
Well I went to your site and could not figure out how to register....
I am not very computer savy though.....:rolleyes:
bizi

http://www.blurty.com/create.bml

youre essentially making a journal, but you dont have to post in it or anything, you can just use it to read other peoples journals. :) if you want to use it as a journal you can too :) then when I post it'll show up in your 'friends' page and when you post, it'll be on my friends page so I can reply when you post too:)

houghchrst 07-30-2008 10:03 PM

Hi Meg, I was wondering if you saw this live version of your song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ9je...eature=related . I found it to be quite fun. I had never heard the song before. Thank you for the introduction.


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