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Thelma 11-08-2006 04:51 PM

I just love that statement. Don't we sometimes need just to talk even if it is not so swift. lol

I think of MsD as Msd and not b12. Don't know what she calls me lol lol lol

Now don't worry about Alfie because she runs around with a dancing frog and that says it all lol lol lol and another one for that cool remark lol



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thought we were just having a friendly confusing discussion.

kimmydawn 11-08-2006 05:12 PM

I always try to use "I" statements when talking, advising, etc. It's just something that's important to me and how I reflect myself. That's just me. However, many give straight advice without the "I" statements and some with an extremely "informed/learned tone. I think that's fine.

A few different places in the guidelines it refers to "views and opinions" of the author, information sharing, etc. Here's a quote from the guidelines, "These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only." I think it's pretty clear what the forums use is to the individual member; and what they do with advice, and how they invesitgate it (or don't), is totally within their free will as a member of NT.

In other words, I think it's pretty well known, as well as stated, that posts are the views and opinions of the author and it's the member's "gift" or right to do with as wanted or needed. :)

Just my thoughts on this dreary day here in Ohio. :)

KD

mrsD 11-08-2006 05:14 PM

well...
 
I was very concerned about this thread, esp when the communications from
Telma were so confusing, hard to read and understand. To be honest, I now understand the real meaning of obfuscation.
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Originally Posted by Thelma
We need to not allow our own opinions to influence what we feel the person on the other side of the screen is thinking.

Now I know he/she understands perfectly. :p

Lara 11-08-2006 05:16 PM

I've suddenly lost my sense of humour this morning. Thelma, I wasn't worrying about what alffe said. I just don't always "get" things 'cause of the way my brain works. Sometimes when I ask what something means, that's just what I mean. I don't always understand nuances in language. *sigh

I recall many years ago on usenet asking someone innocently what they meant by their use of the word "cabish". I didn't understand it. Apparently they were meaning "capiche" but they said "cabish". My question incited the most horrid and lengthy threads of disdain at my question. One day I'll learn not to ask.

Anyway, I'm sad and angry and livid about something elsewhere at the moment because I just read an article that has sent my blood pressure through the roof and my bp is normally around 100/70.

I just read this and I have important things to do, like track down the full article of this abhorrent business related below in an abstract that's making the news ...

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Vol. 160 No. 10, October 2006
Attenuating Growth in Children With Profound Developmental Disability

A New Approach to an Old Dilemma

Daniel F. Gunther, MD, MA; Douglas S. Diekema, MD, MPH

Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2006;160:1013-1017.

Caring for children with profound developmental disabilities can be difficult and demanding. For nonambulatory children with severe, combined neurologic and cognitive impairment, all the necessities of life must be provided by caregivers, usually parents, and these tasks become more difficult as the child grows to adolescence and adulthood. Many parents would like to continue caring for their child with special needs at home but find it difficult to do so as the child increases in size. If growth could be permanently arrested while the child was still small, both child and parent would likely benefit because this would facilitate the option of continued care in the home. Treatment of the child with high-dose estrogen, initiated at an early age, could provide this option. High-dose estrogen both inhibits growth and rapidly advances maturation of the epiphyseal growth plates, bringing about permanent attenuation in size after a relatively short period of treatment. We present a case report and discuss the medical and ethical considerations of such an intervention strategy. We suggest that after proper screening and informed consent, growth-attenuation therapy should be a therapeutic option available to these children should their parents request it.
bold added by me.

kimmydawn 11-08-2006 05:16 PM

You know, I agree with so much as well. Showing support in some way is key, even when disagreeing, I feel. So many times I might feel like I KNOW something...really know it. I have to stand back and look at the fact that I might know something...as it applies to me and my experience, but someone else's might be totally different.

So many times there's miscommunication because we can't see another's body actions, facial expression, tones of voices, etc. Also, we aren't as quick to ask for clarification with words on the puter screen, I think, and one word left out can mean alot!

KD

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We need to not allow our own opinions to influence what we feel the person on the other side of the screen is thinking.

Chemar 11-08-2006 05:22 PM

((((Lara))))

I sure can understand why that article has sent your BP up!!!:eek: :mad:

how on earth can something like that get published!

Lara 11-08-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kimmydawn (Post 36188)
You know, I agree with so much as well.
So many times there's miscommunication because we can't see another's body actions, facial expression, tones of voices, etc. Also, we aren't as quick to ask for clarification with words on the puter screen, I think, and one word left out can mean alot!KD

Indeed, kimmydawn.
Imagine what it's like to be that way in face-to-face (real-life) situations as well. It's doubly difficult on the computer screen.

kimmydawn 11-08-2006 05:32 PM

Oh, yes, Lara. That's so true, I've found...when misunderstanding myself or reading someone being "short" when they were being funny, etc.

KD

PS - I edited the post. The quote didn't quote what I wanted, and I expanded a bit more. (Just an FYI ;) )

loisba 11-08-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Doody (Post 35923)
The good thing about Thelma's thread is that it reminds us all to be careful what we say to others.

I couldn't agree more, Doody! And can't we always trust Thelma to bring up an interesting thread and get us thinking, for whatever reason she did it! :)
Hugs,

Alffe 11-08-2006 06:14 PM

Lara, I was being "flip"...:p When we were in S.C. for the wedding one of the ladies was getting some flap about her strictness...(Mr.Alffe was afraid of her)
So I said, don't worry, I've got your back..and we all laughed. (as in guarding her back) So just laugh...and the world laughs with you. I personally, am dancing in the street over the election. :D *whisper.....with a frog no less!

Well I had to edit this when I read the article you posted.....surely I didn't understand that!!! Grrrrrrrrrr

All flipness gone. :(


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