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Old 09-26-2011, 03:57 PM #1
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Default problem crown/tooth, what's my next move?

Last Nov. my dentist wanted to place a crown of a non-painful tooth because it had a crack that went below the gum line. Had alot of pain with the temporary that spread to other teeth despite the bite being adjusted a couple of times.

Went to another dentist to try and get it resolved who stated something about the margins on both the temp(and the permanent, I brought it with me)New dentist asked old dentist to replace the crown, he refused said he'd fix it. New dentist placed a new temp on and took a mold for the old dentist to "fix" the perm crown. New temp was less nerve painful but still didn't like much pressure. Asked new dentist if I would just be better off having a new crown made and she said no.

Had new dentist place the perm crown last week. She said the margins were still too big, even tried to take pics but camera wasn't working. So she tried to fill in margins with composite. Now I'm having worse pain from that 2nd to the last molar to the front tooth on that side. Sensitive to hot/cold(didn't have that before) and still problems with pressure. Also, she took a
the perm crown on /off several times while adjusting it, and that didn't hurt(was numbed), but when the cement was placed I could feel it in several teeth.

As mentioned in a previous post had a tooth extraction on the other side 3 weeks ago, so can't really chew on either side now. Was getting by on soups and smoothies but now with the sensitivity to temperature my options are even more limited.

Should I wait and see if it calms down?, should I try to get more composite added? Should I just start over? Not my primary concern, but it is getting expensive, and I just want the pain to stop and be able to eat normally again. I can't believe this has been going on for almost a year now.

Sorry it's so long.

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Hi Diana,

Is this the same tooth that the oral surgeon recently said had an infection but your dentist didn't agree with that diagnosis?

When a dentist starts putting composite material on a new crown, there is a problem right there with the fit of the crown. Anytime the dentist remarks "the margins are still to big" on the crown they just made.... there is a problem with the fit of the crown.

Sounds to me like the dentist that did this new crown, has not treated you fairly in that if the new crown does not fit properly, he has to do a new one, no questions asked!

You have been through the wringer with your recent dental problems. How is the extraction site feeling and healing these days!

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Last Nov. my dentist wanted to place a crown of a non-painful tooth because it had a crack that went below the gum line. Had alot of pain with the temporary that spread to other teeth despite the bite being adjusted a couple of times.

Went to another dentist to try and get it resolved who stated something about the margins on both the temp(and the permanent, I brought it with me)New dentist asked old dentist to replace the crown, he refused said he'd fix it. New dentist placed a new temp on and took a mold for the old dentist to "fix" the perm crown. New temp was less nerve painful but still didn't like much pressure. Asked new dentist if I would just be better off having a new crown made and she said no.

Had new dentist place the perm crown last week. She said the margins were still too big, even tried to take pics but camera wasn't working. So she tried to fill in margins with composite. Now I'm having worse pain from that 2nd to the last molar to the front tooth on that side. Sensitive to hot/cold(didn't have that before) and still problems with pressure. Also, she took a
the perm crown on /off several times while adjusting it, and that didn't hurt(was numbed), but when the cement was placed I could feel it in several teeth.

As mentioned in a previous post had a tooth extraction on the other side 3 weeks ago, so can't really chew on either side now. Was getting by on soups and smoothies but now with the sensitivity to temperature my options are even more limited.

Should I wait and see if it calms down?, should I try to get more composite added? Should I just start over? Not my primary concern, but it is getting expensive, and I just want the pain to stop and be able to eat normally again. I can't believe this has been going on for almost a year now.

Sorry it's so long.

Diana
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Yes, the same tooth. She said she really doesn't think it's an infection and wanted to place the crown. Shen told me before if the crown wasn't right, she wouldn't put it on, but she did it anyway. And didn't even return my call from yesterday telling her about the pain and new sensitivity to hot/cold. Not getting good care here, but not sure what to do now.

The extraction site is still sore, but compared to the other side it it doing fine. At least I can lay on that side at night.

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Hi Diana,

I agree, you are not getting the proper care from her. I know you don't want that tooth to be infected, but if the surgeon said it was, I would take his word over hers. Especially since she's treating you so lackadaisically, I just wouldn't trust her at this point.

Can you consult with another general dentist... perhaps the oral surgeon can refer you to someone else?

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Yes, the same tooth. She said she really doesn't think it's an infection and wanted to place the crown. Shen told me before if the crown wasn't right, she wouldn't put it on, but she did it anyway. And didn't even return my call from yesterday telling her about the pain and new sensitivity to hot/cold. Not getting good care here, but not sure what to do now.

The extraction site is still sore, but compared to the other side it it doing fine. At least I can lay on that side at night.

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I've had enough, I am looking for another dentist. I've been unhappy with other things that have occured, but not calling me back after placing an inadequate crown which is causing new pain is unacceptable. What do they think I'm eating, or how I'm sleeping. Had to actually take pain pills from the oral surgeon from the extraction. Not sure what I would have done without those.

thanks again for your support. I'll keep you posted...
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Wish I had better news. Put my head in the sand about this tooth til the temp cemented perm crown fell off. Dentist actaully declines to get me in to replace it, claiming I now need a root canal.

New biodentist does me a favor and gets me in. Said I need a new crown(no surprise there) Places a new temp and uses muscle testing to test a material(don't remember what is was)for the new crown.

Last Wens new crown placed, pain much reduced. But I can't relax at all, I have increased heart rate, shallower breathing, and my ears are ringing like crazy. Got a migraine last night. Have to take lots of meds to get any sleep.

I can't imagine having to get a third crown, but no way can I exist like this. What should I do? Why do I feel like he's going to be upset with me because I can't tolerate whatever this is made of? I have other crowns and have never had any reaction like this.

Any guidance you can give me would greatly appreciated.

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Hi diaba,

Your symptoms could be related to your migraine headache rather than the material of the new crown. If the physical symptoms do not subside once the migraine has passed, then call the dentist and explain what you are experiencing.

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Wish I had better news. Put my head in the sand about this tooth til the temp cemented perm crown fell off. Dentist actaully declines to get me in to replace it, claiming I now need a root canal.

New biodentist does me a favor and gets me in. Said I need a new crown(no surprise there) Places a new temp and uses muscle testing to test a material(don't remember what is was)for the new crown.

Last Wens new crown placed, pain much reduced. But I can't relax at all, I have increased heart rate, shallower breathing, and my ears are ringing like crazy. Got a migraine last night. Have to take lots of meds to get any sleep.

I can't imagine having to get a third crown, but no way can I exist like this. What should I do? Why do I feel like he's going to be upset with me because I can't tolerate whatever this is made of? I have other crowns and have never had any reaction like this.

Any guidance you can give me would greatly appreciated.

thanks...
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Hi Bryanna, the symptoms started within 1/2 hour of the permanent being placed. No injection were necessary to place it. The migraine was 2 days later. I think it was from the stress of not being able to rest or sleep much.

I guess I'll call my dentist tomorow and explain what's going on. It's a perfect fit, and the pain that was there for so long is gone, I sure wish I could keep it. But it seems unlikely.

I know there is a dental materials compatability blood test. Are you familiar with it and do you think it's accurate? If I have to get another crown I'd like to increase my odds of tolerating it, as the muscle testing method doesn't seem to work on me.

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Hi diaba,

There are two biocompatible tests that I know of for dental materials. One is the Clifford Materials Reactivity Test by Clifford Consulting and Research and the other is the Peak Performance Test. There is some validity to them, but the values may be time sensitive meaning, the results may change from one test time to another as anyone can become sensitive to a material at any time.

If you were going to get another crown done, it would probably be best to have the crown done immediately after the compatibility test results.

Are you still having the same symptoms that you were having when it was first put in?

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Hi Bryanna, the symptoms started within 1/2 hour of the permanent being placed. No injection were necessary to place it. The migraine was 2 days later. I think it was from the stress of not being able to rest or sleep much.

I guess I'll call my dentist tomorow and explain what's going on. It's a perfect fit, and the pain that was there for so long is gone, I sure wish I could keep it. But it seems unlikely.

I know there is a dental materials compatability blood test. Are you familiar with it and do you think it's accurate? If I have to get another crown I'd like to increase my odds of tolerating it, as the muscle testing method doesn't seem to work on me.

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yes, I just left a message for my dentist.
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