Hi Bryanna

Not sure what to do, after seeing the oral surgeon & him basically saying there was nothing he could do & for me to get the other tooth root canal done & if still no improvement go back to him.

Today I went back to the original dentist just to go through things again & he brought up the x rays before I had the wisdom tooth extracted & the root canal done on the tooth next to that, My sinus above it was inflamed above a few teeth, he then showed me the recent x ray & the sinus had cleared above the recently root canaled tooth but was now above the tooth next to it & was also inflamed above the next tooth that had previously had a root canal (I can't remember ever getting another one).

So he basically said that the tooth next to the recently root canal tooth needs work (root canal) & from a dental point of view that's all he can do & hopefully that would fix everything.

He said for me to have a think etc. Bryanna I know you said rc's are no good, I don't know what to do now after the oral surgeon telling me to just get the tooth fixed, I live 3 hours away from a holistic dentist & even if I made the trip do I just ask for not just 1 but 3 tooth extractions now (2 root canaled & 1 requiring 1 ?

I am sick of the gunk running down the back of my throat which 1 assume is from the tooth requiring work.

P.S I actually feel no pain at all from any of my teeth at the moment

Kind regards

Dear Bryanna,

I am grateful to have found this site. Your keen understanding and knowledge is so very helpful to many who are experiencing health problems due to root canals.

For the past 4 days, I have had a fever and what I thought to be cold symptoms i.e., post nasal drip, what sounds like whooping cough, but believe now (after reading here) could be a sinus cough instead, sore throat, tightness in chest. This is the second episode in two months since rc was started, plus there is a hard nodule at the base of #1 tooth that has been there for some time. At one point, long before the rc it became sore and more swollen; now it's not so bad.

I had my first root canal one month ago and although my dentist was somewhat doubtful of performing the root canal, he sent me to his "specialist" who definitely thought it was best to extract the #1 tooth. My dentist decided not take his advice and advised the rc specialist to do the rc anyway. A week or so later, I returned to my dentist for him to "build up the post" on this tooth. My dentist now wants me to see another specialist, an oral surgeon who will advise if I am a candidate for an implant. I am now in a wait mode to "see how this rc will take or not." The dentist has not cemented the permanent adhesive to the bridge, (yes…it's a 4-part bridge), until receiving a consult from his colleague.

My concern Is now three-fold. If extracting this infected tooth is best, what other option is there if I am not a good candidate for an implant -- My dentist mentioned that the roots in my gums are rather short and the bone may not be able to maintain an implant. Secondly, my heath could be deteriorating with having had two bouts of the above "illness" since having this series of dental work done.

I would really appreciate any advice you are able to share with me on this so I am able to make the best choice in this situation. As it stands, this fever is not going away on its own and the lack of sleep due to coughing with post nasal is leading to sleep deprivation. When I saw the tooth chart you provided and saw that the #1 tooth is associated with the heart, it all rang true as I feel tightness around this area. Someone here mentioned that the rc tooth took on a pulse of it's own...that is exactly my experience too. I thought if the tooth is death why is there a pulse??? Must be the infection underneath in the tiny canals as you describe so well.

You're a God-sent and thank you so much for helping those of us who really need it!

Kind regards

Hi Chalky,

I'm so sorry you are feeling so poorly. I think if you were to rethink this whole situation from the onset of removing the wisdom tooth right up to today, you may seen a rather unpleasant pattern has developed.

I had mentioned to you in a previous post that the bacteria and infection from a root canaled tooth can spread beyond that tooth into the sinus and to the adjacent teeth. Keep in mind that the sinus is directly correlated with the throat, the ears, etc. It is also not uncommon for people to start with one root canaled tooth and eventually end up with all of the adjacent teeth root canaled. In spite of what your dentist is telling you about how fine your rc tooth looks, ask yourself, does this seem like perhaps the bacteria is very much alive in spite of all of those root canals and it is just simply becoming more widespread? Could the old root canaled tooth that you just realized you still have in your mouth be a major contributing factor to all of the problems?

The recent xray supposedly is showing that the sinus is now clear above the rc tooth...... perhaps it is the angle that the xray was taken to make it appear that way because from everything you have described, there sure seems to be a strong correlation between your teeth and your sinuses.

The gunk running down the back of your throat is most likely from the infection that is brewing between your infected teeth and your sinuses. Your dental history is showing you that with each root canal you only end up with needing another one and none of them are resolving the problem because root canal therapy cannot cure an infected tooth.

I probably mentioned this before but the probable reason you do not have pain is because the infection is draining down your throat. If the opening to that drain area closes off from inflammation, you will develop pain and swelling. In the meantime, it is traveling through your digestive tract.

Since you are skeptical of your dentists and with good reason given the history of this continued problem, it may behoove you to take a trip to the holistic dentist for at least a consultation. Sometimes you can email the dentist directly and ask his permission to forward all of your xrays to him to see if he can help you and wants to take you on as a patient given all of the problems you are having.

By problems I mean it is still uncertain as to whether or not the wisdom tooth site is healthy given the way it was extracted and not debrided thoroughly. You have an older root canaled tooth, a recent root canaled tooth and now another adjacent tooth is in trouble. The sinus drainage is long standing and not easing up. So before you make an appointment with someone who is 3 hours away, it is best to find out ahead of time if he thinks he can effectively treat you.

The other side is.... if you decide you do trust in your dentist, then go along with what he prescribes. But be prepared to continue on this root canal journey and risk the health consequences of retaining infected teeth while still keeping that chronic sinus drainage. The choice is really up to you as only you can decide what makes the most logical sense to you and what is in your best interest.

Take a peek at this link and then open the book. Just read through the first several pages of the book. It is a book called The Root Canal Coverup and is written by a former endodontist (root canal specialist) Dr George Meinig. The information is eye opening and may help you understand your situation better.

http://www.amazon.com/Root-Canal-Cov...+george+meinig

Bryanna

Thankyou so much Bryanna, you put so much time into evaluating & answering everyone's problems/questions & it's most appreciated. I think I will contact the Holistic dentist 7 see if he wants to have a look at me

Chalky,

You are welcome. I wish I could advise you of what to do, but I can only provide you with information to help you become better informed. Only you can determine what is right for you.

I would suggest that you ask the holistic dentist if he will take a look at your pre and post op xrays before you travel to see him for the consultation. If he says yes, then ask him if he wants YOU to call your dentists and request they be emailed to him or would he prefer to have his receptionist request them. Either way, those xrays belong to you and legally they have to send them to whomever you tell them to.

I am sensing that you are rather down in the dumps. Please know that you will be okay, you just have to take control of the situation the best that you can so that you can get off this dental roller coaster.

We are here for you.... so know that you are not going along this journey by yourself.

Please keep us posted.
Bryanna

Hi Joeybeezz,

Thank you for the kind words and I am grateful that you have found us too!!

First let me ask, are you sure this is tooth #1? Because that is an upper wisdom tooth. Generally the root structure of a wisdom tooth is a bit different than the other teeth. The roots can be foreshortened... the interior of the large canals can be calcified ..... roots can be fused together... and upper wisdom teeth can be in very close proximity if not into the sinus. So generally root canals are not done on wisdom teeth because of the irregular root structure making it difficult if not impossible to gain access to even perform the procedure. I am guessing this is why the specialist even recommended to extract the tooth.

The nodule at the base of #1 is not a good sign. That needs to be diagnosed by the oral surgeon. It would also be wise to ask the oral surgeon if your sinus is involved with this wisdom tooth and/or with the infection. Ask him if the sinus is sitting low and if it would need to be lifted in order to do an implant.

FYI..... If you are contemplating dental implants in that area, please request from the oral surgeon a dental CT scan prior to any implant surgery to determine the health, height, width and depth of the bone and to determine the health and location of the sinus.

I assume that you are missing 2 teeth. Tooth #1 and tooth #4 are the anchor teeth to the 4 unit bridge? Is tooth #4 also root canaled?

Did your dentist explain the down side of root canaling a wisdom tooth? Did he offer you other options to replace the missing teeth before he performed the root canal? How long have those teeth been missing and had either of them been root canaled?

Your replacement options depend on:

1) What teeth are missing, not just in that quadrant but in the rest of your mouth.

2) What is the overall health of your gums and existing teeth?

Look forward to hearing back from you.
Bryanna




QUOTE=Joeybeezz;1140499]Dear Bryanna,

I am grateful to have found this site. Your keen understanding and knowledge is so very helpful to many who are experiencing health problems due to root canals.

For the past 4 days, I have had a fever and what I thought to be cold symptoms i.e., post nasal drip, what sounds like whooping cough, but believe now (after reading here) could be a sinus cough instead, sore throat, tightness in chest. This is the second episode in two months since rc was started, plus there is a hard nodule at the base of #1 tooth that has been there for some time. At one point, long before the rc it became sore and more swollen; now it's not so bad.

I had my first root canal one month ago and although my dentist was somewhat doubtful of performing the root canal, he sent me to his "specialist" who definitely thought it was best to extract the #1 tooth. My dentist decided not take his advice and advised the rc specialist to do the rc anyway. A week or so later, I returned to my dentist for him to "build up the post" on this tooth. My dentist now wants me to see another specialist, an oral surgeon who will advise if I am a candidate for an implant. I am now in a wait mode to "see how this rc will take or not." The dentist has not cemented the permanent adhesive to the bridge, (yes…it's a 4-part bridge), until receiving a consult from his colleague.

My concern Is now three-fold. If extracting this infected tooth is best, what other option is there if I am not a good candidate for an implant -- My dentist mentioned that the roots in my gums are rather short and the bone may not be able to maintain an implant. Secondly, my heath could be deteriorating with having had two bouts of the above "illness" since having this series of dental work done.

I would really appreciate any advice you are able to share with me on this so I am able to make the best choice in this situation. As it stands, this fever is not going away on its own and the lack of sleep due to coughing with post nasal is leading to sleep deprivation. When I saw the tooth chart you provided and saw that the #1 tooth is associated with the heart, it all rang true as I feel tightness around this area. Someone here mentioned that the rc tooth took on a pulse of it's own...that is exactly my experience too. I thought if the tooth is death why is there a pulse??? Must be the infection underneath in the tiny canals as you describe so well.

You're a God-sent and thank you so much for helping those of us who really need it!

Kind regards[/QUOTE]

Bryanna

Just a question, the tooth where I had the root canal done roughly 10 months ago, it's the one right up the top back left hand side, should it be tender to touch still ? When the dentist did the percussion test a few weeks ago it was the only one that hurt on that side & when he probed inside it with a instrument it was real sensitive, he didn't really seem to want to know much about that though, it's also tender to touch by finger. Just wondered if this meant something wasn't right in there or that's normal for a tooth that had a root canal done ?

Kind regards Mark

Chalky,

The root canaled tooth is infected and that is why it hurts to even slight pressure. The pain you felt when he probed down along the gum line next to that tooth can indicate that you have a perio/endo infection. That would mean that the bacteria from the tooth has traveled to the ligament and the sulcus (deep area below the gum line). The dentist should be informing you of this and not dismissing it. The problem is that as long as the tooth is present, the infection will be present. So I'm thinking he is reluctant to suggest that you have that tooth out especially since the rc was just done 10 mths ago.

Have you emailed the holistic dentist yet?

Bryanna

No not as yet, but I definitely will soon. He didn't actually probe along next to the tooth, it was in the tooth like when they clean stuff out, & it was very tender, I don't notice it much when chewing as it's right up the back. If it is infected should that have shown up on that cone scan thing ?

Mark

Hi Bryanna

Just letting you know I went to another dentist & he said that the tooth I had root canaled was badly decayed, he said the root canal looked good but the overall tooth was no good, he is going to remove it next week & hopefully I start feeling a bit better after that. He also said that the tooth next to it didn't need a root canal , just a filling which he will attend to later on. I also need to improve my cleaning habits , flossing etc