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Old 01-05-2014, 05:46 PM #1
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We had a poster join from Canada with a severe reaction to the
Canadian flu H1N1 vaccine:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post822437-1.html

He has 12 posts, and you can click on his name and view his statistics in his profile, for more.

It is a real problem, Erika. So I can sympathize with your concerns about mandatory rules forcing people to get this vaccine, if they have reasons not to.
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I never used to get them because I was always suspicious of them after the Swine Flu vaccine scare in the 70s. But I've been getting them for the last 5 years or so and never had any problems. And also haven't gotten the flu since, so there's that...
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I have never had the shot and never get the flu. But I taught for years had sick children, have maybe a hey-wire aggressive immune system, who know? Too many variables to know. Had my kids get immunizations, have a friend who is against them. Very confusing. Have very little exposure to others right now too.
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I'm mostly concerned about the squalene oil adjuvant being used in some of the vaccines up here. Apparently the USA's FDA hasn't approved their use so its not in your vaccines. Some pharmacists say it isn't being used here anymore and some say that it is. Apparently it depends on the supplier (which pharma company produces the vaccine), as well as the lot numbers.

I don't often come down with viral infections like the flu...only the occasional head cold, but that only happens maybe once every two years or so. I'm down right compulsive about hand washing and not touching my face, so maybe that has helped me from not getting infected.
I've only had the flu three times in 53 years and two of those were when I was still a child.

This H1N1 sounds like its a real nasty thing though, and I did just get over a bit of a cold. It made my MS symptoms worse and I'm still dealing with some of the effects of it in my joints and with spasticity. I fairly sure that the last few weeks of trying different meds made me more susceptible to infection because the reactions to the meds affected my sleep and appetite (wasn't sleeping or eating much).

I just don't want to do something that might make these symptoms worse, or heaven forbid, produce new ones.

Thanks for your input everyone.

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The US does not put the adjuvants on the inserts anymore. It is very difficult now to find what is exactly in the new flu vaccines.
They they are very secretive, and most doctors have NO CLUE.

And when H1N1 was the flurry....US ran out and imported squalene forms. All of Europe had it. Glaxo made it.
The H1N1 is also in the news in Europe as a possible cause of the new wave of Narcolepsy striking children there.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ght=narcolepsy

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ght=narcolepsy

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ght=narcolepsy

Some of the links may have expired on Yahoo...but a Google search should bring up new ones. So for now all we have are the brief NT RSS feeds from earlier this year.
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I used to get the flu shot every year, but in the last 4 years I've not, and
I haven't had the flu. But as Kicker stated, I'm not around a lot of people
anymore.
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I do get a flu shot every year. Had the H1N1, when they had it, a few years ago. I rarely react, lest you count a sore shoulder. My kids all get the flu mist, which, with MS, I cannot get. In some ways, it's a personal choice. For me, I work with children, and live with them, I'd rather be vaccinated.
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Yup! This year and last. I used to be anti-flu shot, but my GP advised it would be best to get it, so I did. Cost was covered too (due to having an immuno-compromising disease with M.S.).
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