advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-17-2008, 12:00 AM #1
Natalie8's Avatar
Natalie8 Natalie8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 900
15 yr Member
Natalie8 Natalie8 is offline
Member
Natalie8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 900
15 yr Member
Default advice on DMD dilemma

I think I know the answer (and right decision) but I need some confirmation? reassurance? support that I am making the right choice.

I've been on copaxone for 6 1/2 weeks. It is making me feel like crap. I'm on anti-nausea meds they normally give to chemo patients to help with the extreme nausea. I'm taking prescription naproxen for muscle aches and flu-like feelings. The drug makes me fatigued. I am only half functioning in my life right now. It's all I can to do to get up in the morning.

I don't think I can take it anymore. I have toughed it out for what I think is a good while. I have an appt. on June 5 with the big MS clinic in my city. Every week that goes by, I keep telling myself, just hang on until then. You can talk to the new neurologist about what to do, what the choices are etc. Each week I say, maybe you will feel better if you last one more week. But I just don't think I can take it anymore.

If I go off the drug I feel like I am a failure or I am letting my DH down or letting the current neuro down. I think I am conflicted about what to do too because the C. people and the neuro seemed so surprised I feel this way -- of course, everyone says that C. is not supposed to cause flu-like side effects etc.

It it terrible to stop the drug? Should I keep hanging on? It seems a "quality of life v. possible benefit" question to some degree. I guess I just want someone to tell me that it is not the end of the world if I decide to stop the drug....that there are other options.

Ironic, that I just told someone else hours ago that they shouldn't beat themselves up about not tolerating meds but I can't seem to believe it for myself.

Thanks all.
__________________
On Tysabri and love it.
.
Natalie8 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Twinkletoes (05-17-2008)

advertisement
Old 05-17-2008, 12:09 AM #2
MSacorn's Avatar
MSacorn MSacorn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: north coast of Ohio
Posts: 1,130
15 yr Member
MSacorn MSacorn is offline
Senior Member
MSacorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: north coast of Ohio
Posts: 1,130
15 yr Member
Default

Natalie8

You are your own best advocate. If something's not working and is causing more harm then potential good, let it go.

I have also tried A, C, and R and was miserable on the A & R for 6 months each, nearly a decade apart. The site reactions and dents C created made it unbearable too.

Trust yourself. Your decision is just that yours. No failures on our part, it's failure on the drug companies part.

__________________
-- Beth RRMS -dx 1997
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtfully committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
- Margaret Mead

Breathe In HOPE, Breathe Out DETERMINATION
MSacorn is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-17-2008), SallyC (05-17-2008), Twinkletoes (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:12 AM #3
beautytransforming's Avatar
beautytransforming beautytransforming is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Gulf Coast, Mississippi
Posts: 194
15 yr Member
beautytransforming beautytransforming is offline
Member
beautytransforming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Gulf Coast, Mississippi
Posts: 194
15 yr Member
Default

There is no Failing when it comes to taking care of yourself, whether that means staying on a drug and pushing through, or whether that means going off the drug cause it is to difficult to manage the day to day.

You have to take care of you first and foremost. Quality of life is the most important thing, and if a drug is impacting that more than the disease, I don't see how stopping it can be considered a "failure."

Have you started any other meds around the same time? Is it possible it is anything other than the copaxone. Make sure you make an informed decision, and discuss it with the docs. Then do what you need to do for you. YOU are what matters through all of this!
__________________
Diagnosed with MS 4/3/2008
.

Had onset attack in 4/2000
.

Can stop blaming myself for symptoms now.
.


Visit me on
.
.
beautytransforming is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:22 AM #4
barb02's Avatar
barb02 barb02 is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,836
15 yr Member
barb02 barb02 is offline
Grand Magnate
barb02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,836
15 yr Member
Default

Natlaie, Go back and read what you said to me. I definitely understand what you are saying. I stayed on copaxone for 4 1/2 months until my neuro said "enough." But I was miserable during that time period and all I thought about was whether or not I could stand to give myslf the next injection. I experienced 5 serious IPIR's during that the 4 1/2 months (two in the last 10 days) and all of usual injection site problems that made walking more difficult. I spent almost every afternoon on the couch with a blanket around me freezing once I had given myself an injection. So I would also suggest that you listen to your body.

Take care, Barb
barb02 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:24 AM #5
lady_express_44's Avatar
lady_express_44 lady_express_44 is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 3,300
15 yr Member
lady_express_44 lady_express_44 is offline
Grand Magnate
lady_express_44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 3,300
15 yr Member
Default

I have some allergies to meds, but my biggest problem with most of them is sensitivities and side-effects. I have tried many, and there ARE a handful that I have no difficulty with, but they are few and far between. That's one of the big main reasons I have never even tried the CRABs.

I give you credit for trying, and for waiting long enough to know when enough is enuff. You went in with an open mind, and it hasn't worked out. What more can you do?

If you feel confident in yourself that you will look back at this and know you gave it YOUR personal best shot (I know I gave it mine too, even though I never tried them ), then it's time to move on.

Cherie
__________________
I am not a Neurologist, Physician, Nurse, or Hairdresser ... but I have learned that it is not such a great idea to give oneself a haircut after three margaritas
.
lady_express_44 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:38 AM #6
tovaxin_lab_rat's Avatar
tovaxin_lab_rat tovaxin_lab_rat is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,009
15 yr Member
tovaxin_lab_rat tovaxin_lab_rat is offline
Elder
tovaxin_lab_rat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,009
15 yr Member
Default

Natalie

Someone said here that you are not failing the drugs, they are failing you. I tried Copaxone and suffered from fatigue so bad that I could not even get out of bed for days. Listen to what your body is telling you, not what others are trying to convince you! Stop the madness. It's ok to stop.

There are many people with MS who don't use any of the current DMT's on the market (me for one) and just treat the symptoms. Think about this, up until 1995, there weren't any of these drugs on the market for us. It was all about symptom management.

You have to do what's best for YOU. It's your body, your decision.
__________________
Cheryl
Dx: MS 2001 CRPS 2009




“When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it.” - Henry Ford
tovaxin_lab_rat is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-17-2008), SallyC (05-17-2008), Twinkletoes (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:43 AM #7
Victor H Victor H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,090
15 yr Member
Victor H Victor H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,090
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalie8 View Post
I think I know the answer (and right decision) but I need some confirmation? reassurance? support that I am making the right choice.

I've been on copaxone for 6 1/2 weeks. It is making me feel like crap. I'm on anti-nausea meds they normally give to chemo patients to help with the extreme nausea. I'm taking prescription naproxen for muscle aches and flu-like feelings. The drug makes me fatigued. I am only half functioning in my life right now. It's all I can to do to get up in the morning.

I don't think I can take it anymore. I have toughed it out for what I think is a good while. I have an appt. on June 5 with the big MS clinic in my city. Every week that goes by, I keep telling myself, just hang on until then. You can talk to the new neurologist about what to do, what the choices are etc. Each week I say, maybe you will feel better if you last one more week. But I just don't think I can take it anymore.

If I go off the drug I feel like I am a failure or I am letting my DH down or letting the current neuro down. I think I am conflicted about what to do too because the C. people and the neuro seemed so surprised I feel this way -- of course, everyone says that C. is not supposed to cause flu-like side effects etc.

It it terrible to stop the drug? Should I keep hanging on? It seems a "quality of life v. possible benefit" question to some degree. I guess I just want someone to tell me that it is not the end of the world if I decide to stop the drug....that there are other options.

Ironic, that I just told someone else hours ago that they shouldn't beat themselves up about not tolerating meds but I can't seem to believe it for myself.

Thanks all.

Natalie,

You are dealing with the age old question: DMD vs QoL

If the DMD is failing you then please quit the DMD. (It is failing you, you are NOT the one failing.)

Why give up your Quality of Life (QoL)?

If this happened to me (and maybe it is and I just don't know it yet) I would drop the DMD immmmmmmmediately.

Just tell your husband the absolute facts: the DMD is causing additional problems and in order to address the issue you are going to consult your neurologist. And, that it is a COMMON PROBLEM for DMD's to fail people which is why people switch to something else.

If Tysabri fails me then I will throw it out the window in an instant, regardless of how well it is working for others...

Your Quality of Life is much more important.

-Vic
Victor H is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
FinLady (05-18-2008), Natalie8 (05-17-2008), PolarExpress (05-18-2008), SallyC (05-17-2008), Twinkletoes (05-17-2008)
Old 05-17-2008, 09:51 PM #8
NurseNancy's Avatar
NurseNancy NurseNancy is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,240
15 yr Member
NurseNancy NurseNancy is offline
Grand Magnate
NurseNancy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,240
15 yr Member
Default

i agree natalie.
if a med makes us feel worse then it's just not working the way it's supposed to. if it's any help it can take 8-10 mos for copaxone to start working in the body.

there are other meds and tx's available. you can talk to your dr about them.
and it's also your choice to not take anything. altho IMHO it's best to be on something if you can tolerate it and it's helping.

and, look at it this way. if you stop before your dr appt and feel better you'll have your answer.

i agree with all the above advice.
good luck. keep us posted.
__________________
Judy
trying to be New Skinny Butt
______________________
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
--------------------------------------
"DESIDERATA" by Max Ehrmann
NurseNancy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
barb02 (05-18-2008), Natalie8 (05-17-2008)
Old 05-18-2008, 06:49 AM #9
PolarExpress's Avatar
PolarExpress PolarExpress is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Red Wing, MN
Posts: 3,166
15 yr Member
PolarExpress PolarExpress is offline
Grand Magnate
PolarExpress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Red Wing, MN
Posts: 3,166
15 yr Member
Default

Natalie
It's always a tough decision to make..But if your quality of life is such that you're miserable all the time, the drug is not working for you, it's working against you. I quit Rebif and Copaxone for that reason (and I had nowhere near the bad side effects from C that you're experiencing). It's always a crapshoot as far as this disease is concerned, you need to go with what you feel is right.
__________________

.
PolarExpress is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-18-2008)
Old 05-18-2008, 07:27 AM #10
Jodylee's Avatar
Jodylee Jodylee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,365
15 yr Member
Jodylee Jodylee is offline
Senior Member
Jodylee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,365
15 yr Member
Default

Listen to me and everyone else Natalie: It Is Not Your Fault!! C and the interferons failed me. My quality of life was in the toilet, I dropped the drugs like hot potatoes! I'm on Ty right now, so far so good. BUT like Vic said I'll stop it in a heartbeat if it fails me too. Everyone is different, don't blame yourself sweetie .
__________________
Multiple Sclerosis-Dx May 2007

.
Jodylee is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Natalie8 (05-18-2008)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dilemma DMACK Survivors of Suicide 20 05-07-2008 06:39 AM
The underwear dilemma... Momma's Kids Social Chat 20 04-05-2008 12:18 AM
Med Dilemma NaeNae Multiple Sclerosis 16 01-27-2008 09:23 PM
Little dilemma junk4myemail Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 4 05-18-2007 07:05 PM
Dilemma dabbo Thoracic Outlet Syndrome 4 12-30-2006 06:40 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.