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lady_express_44 11-07-2008 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mom2five (Post 403786)
Somewhere on www.lowdosenaltrexone.org I read that if you have spasticity to drop it to 3.0 and stay there. Has this been updated Cherie to where you are still supposed to try to up the dose to 4.5?

And Cherie...thank you soooo much for your help! What a blessing you are to all of us. :hug:

Yes, many men and small/tiny women (around 100 lbs) can not tolerate more then 3.0 mg, and others with spasticity problems sometimes can't either. For some of us the spasticity is just a transitory initial side-effect, or occurs only during cold "weather", etc, so it may require some trial and error/flexibility to find out what works best for us as individuals.

I couldn't get up to 4.5 mg for about 6 months, and have to drop down for a few weeks every Fall when the colder weather hits . . . however for the rest of the year I am fine at 4.5mg.

3.0 mg is the "ideal" dosage and sufficient for many of us (according to Dr B), so I wouldn't be too concerned with forcing the 4.5 mg dosage level. We are still "protected" at 3.0mg . . . it's just that some of us are determined (for no particular reason :rolleyes:) to keep trying to get to 4.5 mg. That dosage may CAUSE problems for some, or IMPROVE symptoms for others . . . so it's a matter of finding what works best.

You are welcome, Mom2Five.

Cherie

Tree55 11-07-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 403819)
Hmmm ... were you vacationing in a warm/hot place by chance? My spasticity is much worse in the cold weather then it is in the summer, which is why I knock my LDN down to 3.5mg when the weather changes. I always manage to get back up to 4.5mg, but it takes about 3 weeks of "climatizing" before I attempt that.

Actually, I was in KY. I will have to look into that.

mom2five 11-07-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 403828)

3.0 mg is the "ideal" dosage and sufficient for many of us (according to Dr B), so I wouldn't be too concerned with forcing the 4.5 mg dosage level. We are still "protected" at 3.0mg . . . it's just that some of us are determined (for no particular reason :rolleyes:) to keep trying to get to 4.5 mg. That dosage may CAUSE problems for some, or IMPROVE symptoms for others . . . so it's a matter of finding what works best.

Cherie

This makes sense to me...thanks! ;)

mom2five 11-07-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 403610)
The clinical trial in San Fran has finished, and at least some results have been published:

"Dr. Bruce Cree from the University of California, San Francisco, presented the results of his 8-week clinical trial of LDN in multiple sclerosis. The trial was a single center, randomized, double masked, placebo controlled, double-cross over study of naltrexone using 4.5 mg daily to evaluate Quality of life. The multiple sclerosis quality of life inventory (MSQLI) was used for the evaluation. The study involved 80 subjects and 70 patients completed the trial.

Results
Compared to the placebo, LDN significantly improved the mental health component summary score. Quality of life was improved on all parameters. Pain was also reduced by LDN. The study showed that short-term use of low dose naltrexone was well tolerated and appears to benefit mental components of MS. Physical improvements were not noted in this study, which could be related to its short duration."

Cherie

Where can I find a copy of this publication?

lady_express_44 11-08-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mom2five (Post 404096)
Where can I find a copy of this publication?

I got that quote from Sammy's website:

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 403610)

If you click on the various links on that site, you will find most of the recent trial results. That trial was very short, and it included people on all the various CRABs, so I didn’t expect it to have amazing results . . . although it does seem there were some.

The recent trial that I am most impressed with is this one:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ose+naltrexone

The link I have in my first posting (of the above link) shows that it was published in Pubmed, which is very impressive to doctors.

Cherie

SallyC 11-10-2008 12:22 PM

LDN stands for, Living Darn Nice..:D (Under the circumstances)

I don't know if the stuff is doing anything.......all I know is that I Feel Better than I did on those shots.

I hope everyone is doing as well and feeling as well..:grouphug:

mom2five 11-10-2008 12:41 PM

I have a message in to get a consultation today...I'm hoping for the Rx soon. I didn't do my Avonex yesterday and feel a little bit better today. I appreciate the encouragement and the help. :Tip-Hat:

jnet1589 11-10-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mom2five (Post 405511)
I have a message in to get a consultation today...I'm hoping for the Rx soon. I didn't do my Avonex yesterday and feel a little bit better today. I appreciate the encouragement and the help. :Tip-Hat:

Hi My name is Jnet this is my first time posting on this site. I just started LDN 11/1/08. I'm taking 1.75 one night and 3.5 the next. We want to slowly bring my immune system up. then pretty soon 3.5 for a month. then we will try 4.5. When I do the 3.5 I feel more enerergy. I feel a little bit better balance but not a lot yet. I am excited. I quit Tysabri in September. :)

SallyC 11-10-2008 02:28 PM

Welcome to Neuroalk, Jnet and to our little LDN thread..So nice ro meet you..:) .. That's a strange doseage combo you are on, but whatever works for you, is okie dokie with me..:D

I'm happy to hear it seems to be helping you, so far and I hope is continues to do so and even improve over time.

So sorry the Ty didn't work for you.

Let's hear more from you and again, Welcome..:hug:


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Originally Posted by jnet1589 (Post 405542)
Hi My name is Jnet this is my first time posting on this site. I just started LDN 11/1/08. I'm taking 1.75 one night and 3.5 the next. We want to slowly bring my immune system up. then pretty soon 3.5 for a month. then we will try 4.5. When I do the 3.5 I feel more enerergy. I feel a little bit better balance but not a lot yet. I am excited. I quit Tysabri in September. :)


mom2five 11-10-2008 03:31 PM

Welcome jnet! I'm new too. Everyone is soooo helpful. Be sure to let us know how you are doing. We're in this together! ;)


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